Much respect to Tracy C!

[lilpauly]

Well if that is what you consider a juvenile hairline, then maybe I can agree with you. I don't consider obama to have a juvenile hairline by any means. Heck I just saw a picture of my grandfather (dads side) for the first time since i was probably 7=8 years old and never realized how much hair he had. At 55-60 he had a lot more than Obama does now. Regan comes very close but not quite to what I am talking about. I will see if I can find a pic but have you ever seen a girl with her hair pulled back. Often, but not always, their hairlines are very round/circular. To me that says girl. A square full head of hair is ok, I mean the round circle pattern looks weird on an older guy.

With that said I know some guys now want to be feminine and if that's your thing, nothing wrong with that...

i picked my screen name lilpauly because i sorta look like a pauly d. i think feminine is not the right word that describe any1 who wants a nw1. i dont think any1 would consider pauly d to be feminine.

[Tracy C]

i think feminine is not the right word that describe any1 who wants a nw1.

A Norwood 1 is not a juvenile hair line. A Norwood 1 is not a feminine hair line. Learn the patterns if you want to talk about them.

[Tracy C]

I just tried to find examples and the NW charts are conflicting themselves. This is not helpful. Some say a Norwood 1 is a juvenile hairline and a Norwood 2 is a mature hair line. But I know a juvenile hair line does not look like a Norwood 1... I'm just going to bed.

[mpb47]

I just tried to find examples and the NW charts are conflicting themselves. This is not helpful. Some say a Norwood 1 is a juvenile hairline and a Norwood 2 is a mature hair line. But I know a juvenile hair line does not look like a Norwood 1... I'm just going to bed.

See if you can find a round hairline, then maybe they will understand....nite

[25 going on 65]

i picked my screen name lilpauly because i sorta look like a pauly d. i think feminine is not the right word that describe any1 who wants a nw1. i dont think any1 would consider pauly d to be feminine.

Wow you do kind of look like that guy.

[re22]

What's with this forum's obsession of completely straight hairlines? It's just a genetic peculiarity some people have, similar to an outie belly button. Many females have a curved hairline pattern that a lot of people here would probably classify as a Norwood 2. The Norwood scale in itself is rather arbitrary to begin with. I know many people here suffer from anxiety and depression which in turn facilitates black and white thinking, but a great portion of the things that get discussed here have no real attachment to reality.

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

the problem I think is that what you call a juvenile hairline is the original hairline

MPB is the genetic mutation

receding hairline is the genetic mutation

calling a non-receded hairline abnormal just because most men lose hair before the age of 50 doesn't sit right with me

[Tracy C]

See if you can find a round hairline, then maybe they will understand....nite

I think I am giving up on this. It is all around us and I don't understand why so many can't or won't see it. Arguing over it is just taking time away from those who actually do need help so I'm throwing in the towel on this. Lilpauly's hair line as seen in his avatar looks better than normal for a guy. The risks he is taking to "improve" something that doesn't need improvement is foolish - and I hope others have the intelligence to see that.

calling a non-receded hairline abnormal just because most men lose hair before the age of 50 doesn't sit right with me

I am sorry that you feel that way about it but it is what it is. It is not normal for a male to retain a juvenile hair line. That is a female trait. Not a male trait. Call in during the show on Tuesday at 8:00pm eastern time - or just talk to a qualified hair restoration doctor about it.

[mpb47]

I think I am giving up on this. It is all around us and I don't understand why so many can't or won't see it. Arguing over it is just taking time away from those who actually do need help so I'm throwing in the towel on this. Lilpauly's hair line as seen in his avatar looks better than normal for a guy. The risks he is taking to "improve" something that doesn't need improvement is foolish - and I hope others have the intelligence to see that.

Well when I was younger I was the same way so I understand where they are coming from. When I first got on the net I was greeted by several older guys that basically said recession is not that big of a deal, just wait till it starts in the back-then you will have something to worry about.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Well when I was younger I was the same way so I understand where they are coming from. When I first got on the net I was greeted by several older guys that basically said recession is not that big of a deal, just wait till it starts in the back-then you will have something to worry about.

The fact that it MAY start at the back, is worrying in itself.

A guy with their original hairline, is much more likely not to suffer that same fate.

[lilpauly]

I think I am giving up on this. It is all around us and I don't understand why so many can't or won't see it. Arguing over it is just taking time away from those who actually do need help so I'm throwing in the towel on this. Lilpauly's hair line as seen in his avatar looks better than normal for a guy. The risks he is taking to "improve" something that doesn't need improvement is foolish - and I hope others have the intelligence to see that.





I am sorry that you feel that way about it but it is what it is. It is not normal for a male to retain a juvenile hair line. That is a female trait. Not a male trait. Call in during the show on Tuesday at 8:00pm eastern time - or just talk to a qualified hair restoration doctor about it.

yes my hairline has improved alot. tracy i was a nw 2! now i'm nw 1.5

[Tracy C]

now i'm nw 1.5

You are not a Nowood 1.5. Your hair line looks almost juvenile and girly. The risks you are taking are foolish and reckless. Pulling other people into what you are doing is downright unethical.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I just tried to find examples and the NW charts are conflicting themselves. This is not helpful. Some say a Norwood 1 is a juvenile hairline and a Norwood 2 is a mature hair line. But I know a juvenile hair line does not look like a Norwood 1... I'm just going to bed.

NW1 is the start of hairloss, then NW2 is when it progresses further.

Most NW1s end up as NW2s

[25 going on 65]

According to the NW-H scale, NW1 is "no hair loss." The drawing to me looks like an adult hairline rather than a round juvenile one, so I'm guessing that's what it's supposed to represent (i.e. childhood hairlines aren't represented on Norwood Hamilton)

I'd put lilpauly at a NW1 from his picture. I actually think it looks good. I'm just not prepared to take the same risks at this point.

[lilpauly]

You are not a Nowood 1.5. Your hair line looks almost juvenile and girly. The risks you are taking are foolish and reckless. Pulling other people into what you are doing is downright unethical.

my hairline is work in progress! another inch and i will be a happy! until then the fight goes on! im here to tell people what worked for me! i wish people would buy some equal or ru because these treatments showed so much promise in clinical studies!