Scar Grafting with Dr Cole

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  • Aztec
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 3

    Dear Northeastguy, thank you for all of your help, guidance, and knowledge. You are one of the few who always took the time to respond and offer genuine feedback that was extremely helpful. Your transformation is simply inspiring and you look awesome. In my honest opinion, you defeated all odds and conquered the nightmare. Thanks again for everything pal and I will spread the love. Peace and all the best to you. Gillenator, Topcat, StevieR, I am forever greatful to all of you as well!

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    • Nicole007
      Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 82

      Hey northeast, here are all your photo's from SMG! Better late than never! You were amazing to work with. We appreciated your patience and understanding in that tricopigmentation is indeed a process. Working with scar tissue is as Dr. Cole stated - unpredictable. It's better to work slow and stay ahead of any anticipated problems than try to work backwards and try to correct! "Do no harm" always our motto.
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      • chicago99
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 61

        Great results, especially after 3rd session. Nicole, what number guard is his hair cut at in those pictures? Thanks

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        • aim4hair
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 437

          Northeastguy,
          U've came along way. The result is amazing and now your donor looks clean.
          How short you keep your hair now in the recepient area? And are you planning to do anything on recepient area to fix the angles lf transplanted hair and make them not stick up?

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          • northeastguy
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 367

            Had a haircut today so wanted to post an update. This is a 1 guard cut. taken with flash. I'll try getting an outside photo with natural light over the next day or so. next to it is the 2 guard cut I did before Dr Coles first session. Without the combination of both treatments, I would not be able to cut this short. Absolutely no way. Even the laser helped and to be honest, every little bit was needed. I still have a ways to go but for now I will let everything grow and use SMP to blend. Thanks for the posting Nicole.... and all your help. aim4hair those lenghs range from .5 to 1.5 guard. .5 will be my goal and hope to make another pass maybe late fall with SMP at a .5 guard and see what we end up with. that would also be almost 20 months post beard grafting and more time for the scars to heal up.
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            • jekas
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2015
              • 1

              You can get a Hair Tattoo from ********* in Toronto to put an end to your baldness

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              • pusheject
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 4

                Hi Jetfan, came across this post as I too might be visiting Dr Cole for beard and scalp into scar. Did you ever go through with it ? How are you doing ?

                Best,

                Push.

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                • pusheject
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 4

                  You look great NEguy.......what a great thread. Thanks for sharing.

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                  • robodoc
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 200

                    SMG was half of Cole fee and maybe just as good. Been to both.

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                    • northeastguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 367

                      OK.... so I guess its time for an update. I need to be a lot better with this thread going forward. In a way I've been trying not to focus so much on the repair process and live my life but lately there has been to much action regarding my repair so its time to update. during the SMP sessions with Nicole I have developed a very good relationship with Dr Ron Shapiro. We ended up putting a different plan together that involved combining additional FUE to the scar and incorporating the semi permanent SMP. My scar edge is very dense so it made sense to remove the FU's from that area to assist in evening out the density. I did one small FUE session Back in September followed by SMP into the scar this past January. This Thursday and Friday I will do another SMP throughout the scalp to blend followed by another FUE session the next day. I will be sporting a .5 guard cut for this one. Next month we are going to add the 12,000 FU we cloned..... Just kidding. But seriously people, what the hell is taking so long!

                      I have been beyond lucky to have been helped out by both Dr Cole and Dr Shapiro. I could not have been in better hands each time.

                      As for SMP, here is my opinion.... Trico or Temporary SMP is great. I loved it. It addend just enough density and helped blend the scar. Problem for me is it didn't last nearly as long as I was hoping. about 6 months. Personally I think its a great way for someone to introduce themselves into the idea. It gives them a chance to evaluate how they like it without the commitment. I liked it enough to move into the more semi permanent process.... should last up to 3-4 years. Again, allows me to change my mind as I get older. My opinion is the permanent is a horrible idea. We just don't know enough about it long term and God forbid something goes wrong. With the newer Semi-permanent it doesn't make sense. My idea of the perfect Hair replacement plan involves SMP at some level. Especially in scar repair.

                      I'm a bit more nervous about this go around. not sure why. I think I'm putting a lot of hope the removal of the FU along the hair line will make a big difference. Time will tell..... about 8 months worth. I promise to get more photos as the healing progresses.

                      So Thursday it's SMP with Nicole and Friday its FUE with Dr Ron.....

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                      • Therealdeal23
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 15

                        I have been following this thread very closely for a long time. I too, have a similar strip scar and this thread has been very helpful. Northeast guy, with enough scar grafting (multiple sessions) and the combo of SMP into the scar, does the scar look good at different hair lengths? I understand smp looks best at a 0 guard because it most closely mimics the stubble and when the hair grows out, the 2d smp and 3D hair don't blend well. However, in your experience, with the FUE into the scar, there is also hair growing out of the scar to give it the 3D look. Therefore, can you wear your hair at a 1, 2, and 3? This is the only thing stopping me from going this same route. I want to be able to cut my head to a 0 but also won't be maintaining it every week so want to know if the hair still looks good grown out to other lengths.

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                        • southeastguy
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 26

                          Northeastguy...do you recommend FUE with Cole or Shapiro? I am beginning the journey you just finished and need a place to start. I have a 25cm strip scar that is .5cm wide that I got from a 2007 surgery with Dr Feller. I got only 1,600 grafts and I was 20 years old. Really dumb surgery and I was completely mislead by Doctor Feller. I have not had any surgeries since then and am really unhappy with the front work and even more unhappy with the scar.

                          Also, do you recommend to try temporary SMP or FUE into scar first? I wanted to try SMP to see how it looked before I jump into the more invasive FUE.

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                          • northeastguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 367

                            Hi Southeast guy. Sorry for the delay and hope you're doing well. Also sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience with Dr. Feller. In regards to your question, you named two outstanding physicians. I honestly think you would be safe with both. ironically, I will be at Dr. Schapiro's clinic at the end of next week. We will be doing temporary SMP or Trico pigmentation. We will post some before and after photos. Yes, I do feel SMP has a big impact on Scar repair and camouflage. Nothing is going to replace FUE into the scar and should be the primary task. The SMP or Trico essentially ties it all together. Be patient as you will likely need a few passes of FUE over a course of about two years. I am sort of coming to the end of my journey with this. I will likely just do Traco going forward. Doing more FUE has not been beneficial. I seem to be very safe now at a 1.5 (with Trico) or two guard length. Be careful with permanent SMP. It did not match my skin tone at all and I needed to have it removed. That set me back almost 9 months. I had some shock loss from the laser. Lately I've noticed things are improving substantially. Reach out if you have any questions be happy to help.

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                            • northeastguy
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 367

                              zero God is extremely difficult to achieve if you have a scar. I have not seen anyone who has been able to completely hide it at that length. You can achieve great improvement but you will ultimately still be able to see it. There is often scar raising or depression, that may have a lot to do with it. When your hair is slightly longer 1 to 2 guard, that seems to resolve the issue. For me I have learned the magic number is 1.5 to 2 guard. Now that we added some FUE between the sides and the top a 2 guard is a nice look. I am very happy with that length as it is still a nice short cut. I will post some photossoon. I see Dr. Schapiro next week for SMP work.

                              QUOTE=Therealdeal23;254035]I have been following this thread very closely for a long time. I too, have a similar strip scar and this thread has been very helpful. Northeast guy, with enough scar grafting (multiple sessions) and the combo of SMP into the scar, does the scar look good at different hair lengths? I understand smp looks best at a 0 guard because it most closely mimics the stubble and when the hair grows out, the 2d smp and 3D hair don't blend well. However, in your experience, with the FUE into the scar, there is also hair growing out of the scar to give it the 3D look. Therefore, can you wear your hair at a 1, 2, and 3? This is the only thing stopping me from going this same route. I want to be able to cut my head to a 0 but also won't be maintaining it every week so want to know if the hair still looks good grown out to other lengths.[/QUOTE]

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                              • southeastguy
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 26

                                Thanks for the reply Northeastguy. Your thread has been an inspiration to change my life so I want to thank you for being so honest about your experience. I am planning on going with Shapiro medical for my first pass of FUE with Dr. David Josephitis. They recommended about 30 hairs/cm2 in the first pass. I plan on using only scalp hairs since I have a good donor. How many total hairs/cm2 did you use to get to the result you are at today? Also, how many passes did you do on the scar?

                                I recently did a session of Trichopigmentation and while the session was successful, the contrast of missing hair with a 1 or 2 guard is very noticeable. I hope that the hair from FUE will be the answer to this problem. Im not a big fan of a 0 guard so I hope that I can follow your path and be content with a 1 or 2 guard.

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