There are no hairloss treatments.

[yeahyeahyeah]

We are all wasting our time. There are no viable treatments.

Propecia - your penis can get ****ed

Minoxidil - In many cases not effective.

The others are just shit.

Yesterday, I as out, a friend pointed out that my hair was growing in a triangle, then remarks, "oh you probably have lost a bit of hair at the temples" and then points at it.

I felt SHIT

**** this hairloss SHIT

[Orca]

I know how you feel man.
My mate pointed out my temple hair loss and it made me feel a bit shit too. At the end of the day though, that's all it is. I'm happy enough being a norwood 2, and just hope propecia maintains what I have. Yeah I can't pull off every hairstyle, and my hair looks silly when it's wet, but you gotta roll with the punches.
It does make it harder sometimes when it seems that every young person around me still has all their temple hair, but what can you do

[yeahyeahyeah]

How long have you been on propecia? Is it working?

[UK_]

How long have you been on propecia? Is it working?

I wouldnt if I were you.

[Tracy C]

We are all wasting our time. There are no viable treatments.

Both Propecia and Rogaine work for most people who use these medications correctly and properly. Unfortunately, they do not work for everyone - nothing does. Also, many males are using these medications on their hair lines. The hair line is the area that is least likely to respond to any treatment other than transplant surgery. Males are genetically programmed to loose their adolescent hair lines and develop an adult male hair line. I am very well aware that the majority of the guys here do not want to accept that reality - but it is the truth. To proclaim that these treatments do not work at all because they did not work on your hair line is flatly false.

During this past Sunday's BTT broadcast, Spencer pointed out that many guys are using these treatments simply to try to restore their hair lines. Yes, some males can restore some of there hair line with medications - but most males cannot. That does not mean the treatments don't work. These treatments do work on the vertex and mid-anterior for people who use them properly.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I wouldnt if I were you.

Can you tell me why not?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Both Propecia and Rogaine work for most people who use these medications correctly and properly. Unfortunately, they do not work for everyone - nothing does. Also, many males are using these medications on their hair lines. The hair line is the area that is least likely to respond to any treatment other than transplant surgery. Males are genetically programmed to loose their adolescent hair lines and develop an adult male hair line. I am very well aware that the majority of the guys here do not want to accept that reality - but it is the truth. To proclaim that these treatments do not work at all because they did not work on your hair line is flatly false.

During this past Sunday's BTT broadcast, Spencer pointed out that many guys are using these treatments simply to try to restore their hair lines. Yes, some males can restore some of there hair line with medications - but most males cannot. That does not mean the treatments don't work. These treatments do work on the vertex and mid-anterior for people who use them properly.

I havent jumped onto treatments because everyone tells me I have a mature hairline.

HOWEVER

I am shit scared, especially after yday comment

[yeahyeahyeah]

Both Propecia and Rogaine work for most people who use these medications correctly and properly. Unfortunately, they do not work for everyone - nothing does. Also, many males are using these medications on their hair lines. The hair line is the area that is least likely to respond to any treatment other than transplant surgery. Males are genetically programmed to loose their adolescent hair lines and develop an adult male hair line. I am very well aware that the majority of the guys here do not want to accept that reality - but it is the truth. To proclaim that these treatments do not work at all because they did not work on your hair line is flatly false.

During this past Sunday's BTT broadcast, Spencer pointed out that many guys are using these treatments simply to try to restore their hair lines. Yes, some males can restore some of there hair line with medications - but most males cannot. That does not mean the treatments don't work. These treatments do work on the vertex and mid-anterior for people who use them properly.

And what difference is the mature hairline from balding.

Who is to say it wont progress?

[Tracy C]

Maybe it is just an adult hair line, maybe it is more. I can't see you so I don't know. However, if others guys are teasing you because you have an adult hair line and they don't, don't worry, because they will have adult hair lines themselves before too long.

If all you have going on is an adult male hair line and no thinning in your crown or mid-anterior areas, there is not much point in trying to treat it. If you do have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior areas and that bothers you, you probably should talk to your doctor about treating it.

And what difference is the mature hairline from balding.

This is a grey area. If you also have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior, you are balding. Otherwise only time will reveal if it is actually balding or not.

Who is to say it wont progress?

There is no way to predict that. The best thing you can do is take good quality photos of your scalp every six months to help you keep an eye on it and catch it early if it is actually is balding.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Maybe it is just an adult hair line, maybe it is more. I can't see you so I don't know. However, if others guys are teasing you because you have an adult hair line and they don't, don't worry, because they will have adult hair lines themselves before too long.

If all you have going on is an adult male hair line and no thinning in your crown or mid-anterior areas, there is not much point in trying to treat it. If you do have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior areas and that bothers you, you probably should talk to your doctor about treating it.





This is a grey area. If you also have thinning in your vertex and/or mid-anterior, you are balding. Otherwise only time will reveal if it is actually balding or not.





There is no way to predict that. The best thing you can do is take good quality photos of your scalp every six months to help you keep an eye on it and catch it early if it is actually is balding.

So why wait until I lose more hair? When I can maintain now

This mature hairline sounds like a myth to make guys feel better.

Sigh feel so frustrated

[Tracy C]

This mature hairline sounds like a myth to make guys feel better.

The vast majority of guys want to believe that this is a myth. It isn't a myth. This is one of those natural and normal male physical traits that differs from females like bigger hands, bigger feet, deeper voice, wider shoulders and so on.

Whether you wait to treat it or not is entirely up to you. It is your decision alone and no one can or should make it for you. You can only try to predict what will happen but you cannot know for sure what will happen. You need to look at your male relatives from both sides of your family to try to determine if it is likely to get worse or not.

[25 going on 65]

I understand the frustration with current treatments. I would love to stop taking hormone medication if something newer would come out.
That said, finasteride really is a better hair loss treatment than the reputation it seems to have on these forums. When reading the scary posts about guys who got side effects, we often forget that less than 5% of all men who take this drug will experience sides over a 5-year period.
And the thing is, it works. It doesn't regrow a teenage rock star head of hair, but it can be the difference between adjusting to a new self-image every 6-12 months vs. looking the same for many years.
Let me make it clear: I want to stop taking hormone drugs. I would love for something better to come out so I could quit fin. But other than dutasteride, it's the only way to actually fight MPB right now. It's let me keep a NW2 and reverse my thinning--had I not taken it, I would have visible diffuse loss in at least a NW3v pattern right now.
And then there's Spencer, who I believe is a NW3. The dude started balding more than 2 decades ago... without treatment he would be at least a NW5 right now, probably more like a NW6.

So in closing: I agree, we need better treatments. But I'm still glad to have current ones. When it comes down to it, you want to be able to live comfortably today, not "in another 5 years."

[yeahyeahyeah]

The vast majority of guys want to believe that this is a myth. It isn't a myth. This is one of those natural and normal male physical traits that differs from females like bigger hands, bigger feet, deeper voice, wider shoulders and so on.

Whether you wait to treat it or not is entirely up to you. It is your decision alone and no one can or should make it for you. You can only try to predict what will happen but you cannot know for sure what will happen. You need to look at your male relatives from both sides of your family to try to determine if it is likely to get worse or not.

Thats the thing we dont have many high norwoods.

And I dont know why you keep calling this a male trait, because there are so many guys like tom cruise or brad pitt that keep their juvanile hairline

[yeahyeahyeah]

I understand the frustration with current treatments. I would love to stop taking hormone medication if something newer would come out.
That said, finasteride really is a better hair loss treatment than the reputation it seems to have on these forums. When reading the scary posts about guys who got side effects, we often forget that less than 5% of all men who take this drug will experience sides over a 5-year period.
And the thing is, it works. It doesn't regrow a teenage rock star head of hair, but it can be the difference between adjusting to a new self-image every 6-12 months vs. looking the same for many years.
Let me make it clear: I want to stop taking hormone drugs. I would love for something better to come out so I could quit fin. But other than dutasteride, it's the only way to actually fight MPB right now. It's let me keep a NW2 and reverse my thinning--had I not taken it, I would have visible diffuse loss in at least a NW3v pattern right now.
And then there's Spencer, who I believe is a NW3. The dude started balding more than 2 decades ago... without treatment he would be at least a NW5 right now, probably more like a NW6.

So in closing: I agree, we need better treatments. But I'm still glad to have current ones. When it comes down to it, you want to be able to live comfortably today, not "in another 5 years."

Would starting at .25 be wise.

How long have you been on propecia, have you had any sides?

[Tracy C]

And I dont know why you keep calling this a male trait, because there are so many guys like tom cruise or brad pitt that keep their juvanile hairline

Open your eyes and look around while you are out and about in the real world. I could go to any high school in the country and find that well over half of the young guys attending those schools have an adult male hair line. Most of them will get worse during their lifetime, some of them won't. It is very rare for a male to keep his juvenile hair line. These who do keep their juvenile hair lines are the anomalies, not you.

Thats the thing we dont have many high norwoods.

Do any of them have thinning in their vertex and/or mid-anterior?