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[Person]

Bimatoprost for scalp is the only legitimate treatment that will be out by 2015. Histogen is still a long way away, realistically 2018 it will be available. Aderans realistically 2017-2020. Why is nobody on this forum talking about Allergan's Bimatoprost for scalp?

Allergan is a multi billion dollar publicly traded company that can go through these trials quickly without having to raise money. They finished the phase II clinical trial in july and we should see results in september or october.

[BoSox]

Histogen is still a long way away, realistically 2018 it will be available. Aderans realistically 2017-2020

Aderans 2017-2020? Where in god's name did you pull that time frame out?

They plan to come to market 2014.. 2015-16ish by the latest.

[Person]

BoSox; Aderans 2017-2020? Where in god's name did you pull that time frame out? They plan to come to market 2014.. 2015-16ish by the latest.

They have always "planned" to finish trials by this date, or come to market at that time. They Never do. That means nothing. At first i thought that too. But after doing extensive research it is still far from reaching the market.

I understand everyone wants to be optimistic, but sometimes you have to be realistic.

[BoSox]

I do understand that, and there are set backs.. but they are going to start Phase 3 trials in Feb, if all goes well (which we will know by Octorber).

Regardless, as far as they are in their Phase 2.. Phase 3 will start soon, and Phase 3 won't take 3-7 years.

In other words, 2014-15 is a realistic timeframe.

[rdawg]

I do understand that, and there are set backs.. but they are going to start Phase 3 trials in Feb, if all goes well (which we will know by Octorber).

Regardless, as far as they are in their Phase 2.. Phase 3 will start soon, and Phase 3 won't take 3-7 years.

In other words, 2014-15 is a realistic timeframe.

I believe Histogen ends phase 2 in December, saying 2017-2018 is way too far. If all goes to plan histogen will be out come late 2014-2015 in asia/europe.

The MORE important part is knowing if these products for sure are coming out, I dont mind waiting 3-4 years if next year I already know the product will be launching and say brings back 40% of your hair etc.

Allergan is good, but not anything special, essentially an alternative to minoxidil which could be slightly better.

[Person]

rdawg;75410]I believe Histogen ends phase 2 in December, saying 2017-2018 is way too far. If all goes to plan histogen will be out come late 2014-2015 in asia/europe.

"If all goes to plan" . This rarely ever happens. To think that everything will happen right on schedule is unrealistic. Even if the trials WERE right on schedule, it would not be available immediately to the public that soon after it still has to get approved by the goverment agencies. They will take alot less time than the FDA , but will still take time. Phase II did not go exactly as planned and phase 3 will be larger and even more complex.

[rdawg]

rdawg;75410]I believe Histogen ends phase 2 in December, saying 2017-2018 is way too far. If all goes to plan histogen will be out come late 2014-2015 in asia/europe.

"If all goes to plan" . This rarely ever happens. To think that everything will happen right on schedule is unrealistic. Even if the trials WERE right on schedule, it would not be available immediately to the public that soon after it still has to get approved by the goverment agencies. They will take alot less time than the FDA , but will still take time. Phase II did not go exactly as planned and phase 3 will be larger and even more complex.

Well essentially we'll know by october if it's continuing to do well so assuming it will or won't work right now is just silly.

If it continues like it should it will be I believe in Phase III January 2013, I highly doubt that takes 5 years to release the product. Phase III should take no more than a year as it means the product is proven to work, it just has to be tested on a larger scale.

Anyways no point in arguing now as neither of us know, I just wouldn't expect it to take another 6 years if they're already having really good results right now. I personally expect early/mid 2015 Asia/europe, late 2016 north america.