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chrisis, heres something which could be intresting for you.
Improving BPH symptoms and sexual dysfunctions with a saw palmetto preparation? Results from a pilot trial.
In elderly men, benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) is a major risk factor for sexual dysfunctions (SDys). Additionally, the standard treatments for BPH symptoms, alpha blockers and 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors, cause SDys themselves. Preparations from saw palmetto berries are an efficacious and well-tolerated symptomatic treatment for mild to moderate BPH and have traditionally been used to treat SDys. We conducted an open multicentric clinical pilot trial to investigate whether the saw palmetto berry preparation Prostasan® influenced BPH symptoms and SDys. Eighty-two patients participated in the 8-week trial, taking one capsule of 320 mg saw palmetto extract daily. At the end of the treatment, the International Prostate Symptom Score was reduced from 14.4 ± 4.7 to 6.9 ± 5.2 (p < 0.0001); SDys measured with the brief Sexual Function Inventory improved from 22.4 ± 7.2 to 31.4 ± 9.2 (p < 0.0001), and the Urolife BPH QoL-9 total improved from 162.7 ± 47.9 to 105.0 ± 56.3 (p < 0.0001). Investigators' and patients' assessments confirmed the good efficacy, and treatment was very well tolerated and accepted by the patients. Correlation analyses confirmed the relationship between improved BPH symptoms and reduced SDys. This was the first trial with saw palmetto to show improvement in BPH symptoms and SDys as well. Copyright © 2012 John Wiley & Sons, LtdComment
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Thanks gutted, but this confuses me. If Saw Palmetto is a natural way to inhibit DHT, instead of using the drug finasteride/ Propecia, why would one cure sexual dysfunction in some men, and the latter cause it?
I just don't get it. There have been fears on this board that SP can cause sexual problems too. Any ideas?Comment
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Could it help me then?
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I though saw palmetto is supposed to reduce dht and people have reported side effects similar to finasteride.
On a second note, chrisis, I want to apologize for a response last month that I think was a little harsh. Sexual side effects are a scary thing. After taking some time to think about it, I'm not going to take propecia because it's not worth the risk as little as it may be. I don't think it's wise to alter hormone levels in an attempt to reduce hair loss if the levels are normal. I'd rather be bald than be selfish and risk my future as a husband and father.Comment
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i believe sides from fin are related to an altered hormonal profile, which can be permanent in some if homestasis does not take its course.
my theory is that the was saw palmetto probably helps people with altered hormonal profiles, as it stimulates the body back to a healthy hormonal profile.
Yes that can be true for some users and highly depends on the brand/supplment they are using. In other users the reverse does occur, and sexual sides dissappear, a recent poster described a similar experience on this board not too long ago, i experienced this also when i was on it a couple of years ago.
Why sexual sides with saw pallmetto occurs, in my opinion is that sexual sides depend on the beta sitosterol amount iin the saw palmetto, too much of it within the saw pal pills coupled with frequent use of saw palmetto will inevitabley cause sexual sides like propecia.
The beta sitosterol also lowers cholesterol which is required to produce androgen hormones, in addition to the 5 alpha reductase blockage this doubles the effect that saw pametto (more correctly beta sitosterol) has on hormone levels.
i beleive too much of beta sitosterolAND using it for more than a few months DEPENDING on the beta sitosterol content of the particular supplement/brand these people have been using will cause these sides.
The best way to take saw palemtto (and propecia too) is on a periodical basiss depending on your hormonal profile.
You should try standardised 85/90% saw palmetto with a minimal amount of beta sitisterol in it.
Ive been trying to find one with fatty acids 90%, have had no luck.
Once sides have dissapeared the best way to get off it is taper off it.
It should help regrow hair too!Comment
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I'm not sure gutted. Appreciate the info but I'm reluctant to experiment any further unless I get really desperate. Maybe the next logical step is to finally see a doctor.Comment
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Sounds sensible. And don't worry about that response, I don't even remember
By the way, you may well be fine on Propecia, I try to be balanced about my opinion. I obviously regret it, just as someone playing Russia Roulette and loses would. Other players are fine; it's just a game of chance I think.Comment
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