Aderans

[hellouser]

Here is Washenik’s presented photo in the video enlarged…

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...RI-results.jpg

If you don’t like my enlarged photo…

http://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/fa/10806/

…a user in a German hairloss forum tried the same.

This method is *extremely flawed*. Simply enlarging a photograph does a number of things;

1) enlarges the pixels
2) smooths out pixelation (photoshop does this)
3) sharpens the end result which gives a false representation

Youre enlarged photographs should be canned from this conversation, scaling rasterized images up always degrades the quality. Unless you have the original photographs in higher resolution, there is nothing here to discuss further.

But this also goes back to my point about photographic evidence being a job of its own; resolution and image sizes are two separate things take form one element. You'd basically have to have a digital media specialist (like myself) creating the presentations for the public ensuring everything is up to even the highest nitpicking standards like the ones you yourself are expecting... and theres nothing wrong with that, its just that I highly doubt that these companys think about what format and pixel density images are taken and how important consistent lighting is.... and you know why? Because this isnt their speciality, so I would *not* hold this against them.

[Desmond84]

Wow! I just listened to the BTT Show this week, and realised how upset Joe is with me and my posts on this forum!

Just wanted to say (particularly to Joe), I'm really sorry if my posts really offended you brother or anyone else for that matter. When I joined this forum late last year, there was minimal information on this forum about what Aderans is or what it can do. So, I spent a lot of time to gather information and show ppl through scientific journals what its potentials may be!

I just thought having hope will help you fight another day!

As of today, I will be holding back on my posts until major breakthroughs!

All the best to all my brothers and sisters out there.

- Desmond

[Jcm800]

That's a shame Desmond. Personally I find your posts very informative and a good read

[UK Boy]

I really find Desmond's posts informative and enjoyable to read as well. I don't get why anyone would find them upsetting, well maybe the one the other week when he went majorly pessimistic and said we were all doomed - is that what upset Joe. If we're going to talk about someone upsetting people on the forum Desmond definitely isn't who comes to mind though. Why didn't Joe have anything to say about Ironman and his constant putting everything and everyone down?

[clarence]

Jeez you could at least have switched the quality to maximum in youtube's panel...

Much better, see?

[534623]

This method is *extremely flawed*. Simply enlarging a photograph does a number of things;

1) enlarges the pixels
2) smooths out pixelation (photoshop does this)
3) sharpens the end result which gives a false representation

Youre enlarged photographs should be canned from this conversation, scaling rasterized images up always degrades the quality. Unless you have the original photographs in higher resolution, there is nothing here to discuss further.

But this also goes back to my point about photographic evidence being a job of its own; resolution and image sizes are two separate things take form one element. You'd basically have to have a digital media specialist (like myself)...

Sure, I know what you mean – and THAT’s exactly the reason, why they don’t publish high resolution photos (and this IS possible!), because nobody should be able to ANALYZE them!

As explained in another thread, in an adult, a given hair structure is like a FINGERPRINT. That means, if you publish a good quality photo of your hair structure TODAY, and you publish a photo 30 years later from the same area – you will see almost exactly the same hair growth pattern.

For example, these completely “virgin” photos (straight from the patient's digital camera) are just 9 month later (after his 2nd HST) of gc’s 3rd HST in the same donor area, posted by gc himself:

BEFORE extractions (12 hours BEFORE gc’s 3rd treatment)
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...2013%20057.JPG

2 days after extractions
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...3/DSCN1531.JPG

8 days after extractions
http://www.fileden.com/files/2011/9/...week%20027.JPG

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Okay, now I simply did the following:

I marked just 1 single extraction site in all photos und labelled this extraction site with #12. Number 12 is easy to find above gc’s birthmark, and you can see EVERYTHING and each and every detail in ALL photos when you CLICK INTO THE PHOTOS TO ENLARGE THEM…

BEFORE extractions (12 hours BEFORE gc’s 3rd treatment)
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...before-HST.jpg

2 days after extractions
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...days-after.jpg

8 days after extractions
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...days-after.jpg

Here is the whole HISTORY of extraction site #12 at a glance – THE voodoo-photo:


Different photo-angles or different light conditions of such complete photos, are completely irrelevant for making a detailed analysis…


As you can see, sometimes I had to turn some photos somewhat (but without any loss of quality!), just so that VIEWERS are more easily able to compare the marked and analyzed observation/monitored areas (blue squares in the photos).

So everything you need is just a cheap digital camera and you can’t fake such photos!
So feel free to encircle and to label all the other extractions sites of your choice around or below or above or on the left side or on the right side of extraction site number 12 – which serves as a MARKER for you, so to speak. Oh, and don’t forget to report the percentage (%) of regrowth sites.

[StinkySmurf]

Wow! I just listened to the BTT Show this week, and realised how upset Joe is with me and my posts on this forum!

I hate to be such a newb, but can someone fill me in. Who is Joe and what was it he said that we are injecting into this conversation?

For me it's kind of simple. Desmond brought to my attention the role the androgen receptors play in cultured DP and how this might effect ongoing maintenance with HM while Iron Man brought to my attention the leakage argument and the risk of patchiness.

I really wish people would put their big kid pants on before they come into these Aderans, Replicel, or Dr. Nigam threads. This really is about science folks!!!

I've said this before, but I'm 37 years old which means I'm more or less gonna have this same haircut in three years when I'm 40. This is a good time for me to consider HT or HM sure, but none of this is make or break for me because I sorta like my hair, and it's not really changing.

If I was really suffering from hair loss, and I know it is a very BIG DEAL so please don't think i'm trying to belittle it, but if I was really suffering right now I probably would have made an appointment with Dr. Gho because the evidence gets more convincing all the time that HST works.

[StinkySmurf]

So here are my questions:

Why is the black dot/marker in the after photo much bigger than in the before photo? In my opinion, it looks like the after photo is just zoomed?

Does the after photo show the same trail subject or at least the SAME area at all?

Why don’t they publish on their website a good high resolution photo of these presentation photos?

Is Aderans aware about a guy named IronMan, who is doing photo analysis and that’s the reason why they don’t publish high resolution photos? That’s THE question …

Haha! Well, They should be aware of it, but I don't know for sure yet if it means they are

Have you tried zooming the other photo or is there a way to un-zoom this one. Is there not at least an inexact way to compensate for this and get a better look at what happened before and after?

I have seen a tattoo needle hit a hair follicle in a way that later caused something almost like an ingrown hair the way it swelled up and grew into a big black spot. I'm not saying that explains this, but just throwing ideas out there.

[garethbale]

Who is this Joe from Staten Island and why was he so upset?

[Kirby_]

Wow! I just listened to the BTT Show this week, and realised how upset Joe is with me and my posts on this forum!

Just wanted to say (particularly to Joe), I'm really sorry if my posts really offended you brother or anyone else for that matter. When I joined this forum late last year, there was minimal information on this forum about what Aderans is or what it can do. So, I spent a lot of time to gather information and show ppl through scientific journals what its potentials may be!

I just thought having hope will help you fight another day!

As of today, I will be holding back on my posts until major breakthroughs!

All the best to all my brothers and sisters out there.

- Desmond

C'mon man, screw the haters. We need your infectious optimism here.

(Besides, didn't Joe from Staten Island get overexcited about Neogenic last summer?)