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    Default even a NW7 can beat baldness, its simple

    basically its just occured to me that with a hair transplant (using all your donor) and the use of concealers like toppik, dermatch, couvre etc anyone on any stage on the norwood scale can achieve a full looking head of hair, just look at jason gardiner!

    am i right, am i right?

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    I hate to be a downer but I don't know about that. Correct me if I'm wrong but a NW7 would be trying to replace something like 60-70,000 lost hairs with 4-6 thousand grafts. You can get coverage but not a full-looking head of hair.

    Jason Gardiner still looks like a man with significant hair loss, especially if you've seen his crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    a NW7 would be trying to replace something like 60-70,000 lost hairs with 4-6 thousand grafts. You can get coverage but not a full-looking head of hair.

    Jason Gardiner still looks like a man with significant hair loss, especially if you've seen his crown.
    no not 60-70 thousand more like 30,000 but with about 3500 grafts plus (which roughly will get you 9000 hairs you can fill in the rest with concealer, here look at jason gardiner, he did this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQhg-FoMfI

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    no not 60-70 thousand more like 30,000 but with about 3500 grafts plus (which roughly will get you 9000 hairs you can fill in the rest with concealer, here look at jason gardiner, he did this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQhg-FoMfI
    He did- and yes it looks ok. However, he's limited to a short hairstyle and is locked into using concealer for the rest of his life. When he didn't he got 'papped' and a 'Hair plugs didn't work out too well for ya Jason?' story ensued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    no not 60-70 thousand more like 30,000 but with about 3500 grafts plus (which roughly will get you 9000 hairs you can fill in the rest with concealer, here look at jason gardiner, he did this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQhg-FoMfI
    What are you talking about "30,000" hairs? The area that's bald -in most men- are bigger than the area that remain covered with hair. If the average person has 100,000, there's no way the bald area only has 30,000 hairs. They say there are at least 700-1000 hairs in a square inch. So, 30,000 (hairs) = 5.5 square inches @ 1000 hairs/s i. The typical bald head has way more than 5.5 s.i bald area.

    Wow ! The guy's hair in the video looks really good. I don't know why someone here is saying he still looks balding. He does NOT. He has a raised hair line but nothing wrong with that. He looks like he has a full head of hair to me.

    I don't know why they keep saying it's unnatural to have a hair line of a younger person when you're old. I don't buy this BS. There are loads of men who are into their 60s and 70s and have hair lines like they're in their teens and they look natural. So, does Jay Leno look like a freak ? I envy him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT View Post
    What are you talking about "30,000" hairs? The area that's bald -in most men- are bigger than the area that remain covered with hair. If the average person has 100,000, there's no way the bald area only has 30,000 hairs. They say there are at least 700-1000 hairs in a square inch. So, 30,000 (hairs) = 5.5 square inches @ 1000 hairs/s i. The typical bald head has way more than 5.5 s.i bald area.
    Easily. A NW7 has lost 70-80% coverage.

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    My memory was 100,000 total hairs also, so 60-70,000 was just a rough guess. Basically 10,000 hairs per Norwood level. I'm sure it varies quite a bit from person to person, but yeah, a NW6-7 has lost much more than half of his hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT View Post
    I don't know why they keep saying it's unnatural to have a hair line of a younger person when you're old. I don't buy this BS. There are loads of men who are into their 60s and 70s and have hair lines like they're in their teens and they look natural. So, does Jay Leno look like a freak ? I envy him.
    Because guys like that look feminine and it's just not normal. Years ago I had a friend who said she would not date a guy that had not lost any hair by 40 because it meant things were broken downstairs.

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    Surely there could be a way of permanently attaching a wig type hair thing that looks 100% natural that was safe and would not cause any discomfort or issues with styling or washing/maintenance.

    Surely this is much simpler than mixing some chemicals together and hoping they help grow hair.

    Just get some sheep fur and glue it to my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT View Post
    What are you talking about "30,000" hairs? The area that's bald -in most men- are bigger than the area that remain covered with hair. If the average person has 100,000, there's no way the bald area only has 30,000 hairs. They say there are at least 700-1000 hairs in a square inch. So, 30,000 (hairs) = 5.5 square inches @ 1000 hairs/s i. The typical bald head has way more than 5.5 s.i bald area.
    typically 30-45000 hairs achieves the look of a full head of hair (with about 50-60,000 being a real full head of hair, and im not talking about the other 40,000 hairs everyone has in the horse shoe as well)

    (bare in mind most people don't even notice their hair has even thinned until they have lost 25-50% of hair)

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