what do people on this site need for a cure?

[UK_]

A true "cure" would immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Once that is achieved, the rest will follow. Since we now know that hair follicles do not die, once they are immunized from DHT they can more eaily be repaired and restarted because you are no longer fighting against the effects of DHT. Attempting to do this without immunization is going to be a very steap uphill battle.

That's not true, castration doesnt regenerate hair - immunizing hair follicles against DHT wont help those at NW4,5,6,7 etc - how do you expect to "repair" the damage done to the existing follicles? I can tell you now, your own body wont give a shit - dont listen to all the Follica research nonsense about "existing stem cells in the scalp" - Follica act like they've found the cure ever 3 years or so, come out in the media waving their arms about & then retreat back into their offices where they're probably all sitting around watching porn.

A cure [holy grail] is exactly what it says on the tin, it's an affordable safe treatment that grows new sustainable limitless amounts of hair.

To the OP, the following website is a great resource to help in the quest for answers for such enigmatic enquiries:

http://www.giyf.com/

PS...anyone know where RichardDawkins has gone?

[Tracy C]

That's not true, castration doesnt regenerate hair...

Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.

You are not looking at the whole picture. I do not know why you are so narrow minded but you need to step back and look at all the pieces of the puzzle instead of just one or two pieces.

[UK_]

Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.

You are not looking at the whole picture. I do not know why you are so narrow minded but you need to step back and look at all the pieces of the puzzle instead of just one or two pieces.

Yes it does - if I castrated myself my hair loss would stop indefinately but the hair ive lost would not grow back - so how is immunization a cure? What about the millions of NW 234567 men out there? How will immunization magically grow their lost hair back? LOL

You claim I am not looking at the bigger picture... the HOLY GRAIL would also address people suffering from AA, AU and scarring alopecia - even TE .. clearly, being immune to one hormone wont do a thing for all these people - so how on earth can you tell me I am not looking at the bigger picture?

You're talking absolute horse shit.

[Tracy C]

Yes it does.

Castration does not immunize hair follicles. You are absolutely not looking at the big picture. Open your mind. Read valid legitimate information, listen and learn. Start by looking up the definition of of the words "cure" and "immunization".

[UK_]

Castration does not immunize hair follicles. You are absolutely not looking at the big picture. Open your mind. Read valid legitimate information, listen and learn. Start by looking up the definition of of the words "cure" and "immunization".

Yes I KNOW it doesnt "immunize" the hair follicles LMFAO *face palm* - did I ever say it did EXACTLY that? I only used it as an example to help you understand that being free from the effects of DHT does not equate to what is often termed "THE CURE/HOLY GRAIL".... You said in your original post that "immunization IS the cure" - SORRY..... but that's utter horse shit - there's people out there suffering from COMPLETE hair loss... there's chemotherapy patients suffering from COMPLETE hair loss - Alopecia Areata patients suffering from COMPLETE HAIR LOSS - to even suggest "being immune to DHT" alone as "THE CURE FOR HAIR LOSS"... is probably the most ignorant and narrow minded statement I have read in the past 3 years on this site. You were talking ABSOLUTE HORSE SHIT in your first post lmfao & now it looks like you're trying to worm out on semantics - pathetic, truly and utterly pathetic.

P.S. I think we forget sometimes that this is a HAIR LOSS site - not a Male Pattern Baldness site.

[WashedOut]

For me there are two definitions. If you're already bald then it should give you 50% density in a respectable pattern, anything more is just being greedy. If you are not already bald then it should be a simple procedure or treatment that will save your hair forever.

[UK_]

For me there are two definitions. If you're already bald then it should give you 50% density in a respectable pattern, anything more is just being greedy. If you are not already bald then it should be a simple procedure or treatment that will save your hair forever.

The holy grail is hair multiplication, it could be used for everyone and anyone.

Imagine taking a few hundred cells from your scalp and a month later being able to transplant over 12,000 new hairs, giving you that hair line you had at 17 even.

That's the f&*%$£g holy grail - not "immunization" lmfao - if only Anthony Atala were working on HM - we'd all be cured by now! That guy can grow over 20 different body organs in the lab.

[Horseshoe]

Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.

Tracy, women do produce testosterone and therefore are subject to hairloss from DHT but not to the same degree as a man. They produce less testosterone then a man and likewise they lose less hair then a man...

[Tracy C]

Tracy, women do produce testosterone and therefore are subject to hairloss from DHT but not to the same degree as a man. They produce less testosterone then a man and likewise they lose less hair then a man...

You haven't seen my mother or her sisters. Fewer women suffer with hereditary hair loss. However, some can suffer just as much or even more than most men. My mother and my aunt's are living examples of that.

DHT is just the trigger for hereditary hair loss - but it is not the root cause. The sensitivity of follicles to the damaging effects of DHT is the root cause. Not all hair follicles are sensitive to the same degree as others. In the case of women's hereditary hair loss, those who suffer with it have hair follicles that are hyper sensitive to DHT. Therefore even the small amount of DHT in their bodies is enough to trigger hereditary hair loss.

The only way to truly "cure" any problem is to resolve the root cause. Therefore the only way to truly "cure" hereditary hair loss is to find a way to immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Once that is achieved, the rest will follow. There is no magic. More work will still need to be done to repair damaged follicles and get them started back up - but that work will be significantly easier to achieve once concern over DHT is out of the equation.

It is most likely that a true “cure” will be a multi-part treatment approach of immunizing hair follicles and repairing damaged hair follicles. Though some hair follicles will be able to heal and repair with little help, others will need extra help. Cell based multiplication should be able to achieve both those very important goals eventually – if the cells being multiplied are taken from DHT resistant follicles.

[Losing_It]

PS...anyone know where RichardDawkins has gone?

RichardDawkins was banned, he is now back at Hairsite under the name MikadoMan..