Replicel - FAIL

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Xestenz
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 3

    #46
    Yes, the Phase I/II efficacy results were prima facie disappointing.

    However, one thing overlooked here is that the act of cultivating and injecting dermal cup sheath cells back into the doner is now effectively proven to positively influence human hair growth.

    Despite the low numbers, this in and of itself amounts to a breakthrough.

    Also, much of the focus has been on the dosage aspect of the Phase I/II trial, and the fact that a 100x dose should produce 'more' results.

    Two points about this -- putting on 10x the amount of sunscreen on a single spot does not necessarily provide 10x the sun protection, but sunscreen continuously applied over a large area will provide up to the rated protection. Perhaps Replicel's therapy will work much the same way, where it is proper distribution of the DCS cells and not concentration of those cells that will yield the best results.

    Also, while dosage is important, I think the real opportunity for improved results will come from refinement of the cell cultivation and multiplication process itself. Note that three test subjects were disqualified simply because their respective personal therapies were subject to slightly higher temperatures during shipment. This demonstrates how sensitive this aspect of the process really is.

    We know from other research that multiple generations of cultivated cells can quickly lose their ability to perform their original task. What if, under the current method, only 1 in 1000 DSC cells maintains the ability to wake a folicle or induce a new one? What if that could be refined to 1 in 100? Or 1 in 10? Harvesting, cultivation, multiplication, shipping, application, etc. can all play a role in this -- and this IMO is were greater gains in actual hair growth might be found.

    Just some thoughts to add to the fray.

    Comment

    • Follicle Death Row
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1066

      #47
      Originally posted by ejj
      same old same old ... ` prp` .. ` acell ` .. `plucked hair `... `layyyyzer therapy` ` replicell ` ... what next ? all utter bs .....
      Utter bs next. I hear it's a fancy new organic topical about to start trials. Smells a bit though.

      Comment

      • Kiwi
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1105

        #48
        Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
        Utter bs next. I hear it's a fancy new organic topical about to start trials. Smells a bit though.
        Arghhhhhh where the **** is Aderans and Histogen when you need em :P

        Comment

        • BaldinLikeBaldwin
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 224

          #49
          Replicel... bwoy you better go back to the drawing board cause you LOST tonight

          Comment

          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3125

            #50
            Originally posted by Kiwi
            Arghhhhhh where the %^#$ is Aderans and Histogen when you need em :P
            We need every company that is willing to work on solving the problem to stay in the game. Tossing one company out simply because you cannot see the gains they have made is very foolish. I personally have very little faith in Aderans - but I certainly hope they stay in the game because you just never know what is going to happen. The more companies out there trying to solve the problem the better it is for us because it increases the chances that a solution will be found more sooner than later.

            Comment

            • john2399
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 527

              #51
              Originally posted by Tracy C
              We need every company that is willing to work on solving the problem to stay in the game. Tossing one company out simply because you cannot see the gains they have made is very foolish. I personally have very little faith in Aderans - but I certainly hope they stay in the game because you just never know what is going to happen. The more companies out there trying to solve the problem the better it is for us because it increases the chances that a solution will be found more sooner than later.
              Tracy, i am not familiar with Aderans. From what i know, Aderans and replicel seem similar..is there much difference in the two?

              Comment

              • Tracy C
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 3125

                #52
                Originally posted by john2399
                From what i know, Aderans and replicel seem similar..is there much difference in the two?
                They are similar in that they are investigating multipliction of different cells. Aderans is investigating the use of dermal papillae. Replicel is investigating dermal sheath cup cells. We do not know what the hair produced with Replicel's treatment looks like yet. We do know that Aderans has a problem with achieving a natural direction of growth. The hair produced with Aderans' treatment is all willy nilly and not in a natural growth pattern.

                Comment

                Working...