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Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP
HT doc's are making $200,000 to $300,000 a year as is. How much more are they going to make with HST? These doc's are booked up as is-- taking the time and money to offer HST isn't going to help them.
There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?
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Originally Posted by gmonasco
There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?
Why weren't these less-established clinics offering FUE 15 years ago? In fact the vast majority of clinics either remained quiet or questioned the procedure! It was not until the procedure was conclusively proven that we began to see a wider level of adoption, a slow process even today.
So this argument "if Gho's claims are true, surgeons would be eager to adopt it" is not a very effective one in my opinion. Just ask Dr. Ray Woods, the original pioneer of FUE, or Spencer Kobren himself who was a part of the whole process. People aren't always open to change.
I'm sure many clinics are also waiting for that conclusive proof before they invest the huge amount of time, money, and effort that is going to be needed to offer HST. The only avenue to learn it really is through Gho and nobody knows what that process is like either.
I think we all want the same thing here though and that's conclusive proof that shows whether HST works or not.
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Can someone please tell me in a sentence or two, what it is they need in order to believe there is donor regrowth? I feel like I've missed something.
I think to take the stance of, "if it really worked other Drs would have taken up this by now". That is naive.
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Originally Posted by JJJJrS
Why weren't these less-established clinics offering FUE 15 years ago? It was not until the procedure was conclusively proven that we began to see a wider level of adoption
But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.
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Originally Posted by gmonasco
But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.
But it has already been proved hasn't it?
Perhaps it's not been proven for long enough!!!
Who decides when it has been officially proven?
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Originally Posted by gmonasco
But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.
how much is the cost of changing to HST?
50k?
no, it is the cost of learning (50k), the cost of living where learn (your guess), and the income you forgoed while learning (year salary= $100,000-300,000), cost of training staff (your guess), cost of getting gho tools etc (your guess),
so the cost of changing to HST:
$500,000+
so...
dismiss HST as long as possible and take in $200,000 salary
vs.
pay $500,000+ and forgo at least a year to learn and implement a completely new biz strategy so you can book a few more surgeries from HST hype?
Unfortunately, doctors take into consideration more than if a procedure works.... these aren't uber -righteous heart surgeons.
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Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP
dismiss HST as long as possible and take in $200,000 salary vs. pay $500,000+ and forgo at least a year to learn and implement a completely new biz strategy so you can book a few more surgeries from HST hype?
a) Your dollar figures aren't realistic. Not every hair transplant doctor in the world is already making $200,000 per year, learning the HST technique wouldn't require an HT doctor to entirely forego his practice for a solid year, etc.
b) If HST were truly the superior treatment it's claimed to be, then the return would be well worth the investment, and yet nobody's investing.
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Originally Posted by gmonasco
a) Your dollar figures aren't realistic. Not every hair transplant doctor in the world is already making $200,000 per year, learning the HST technique wouldn't require an HT doctor to entirely forego his practice for a solid year, etc.
b) If HST were truly the superior treatment it's claimed to be, then the return would be well worth the investment, and yet nobody's investing.
I agree with the first point, I actually think practices could offer HST alongside FUE, just as they offer FUE alongside FUT.
Why do you think nobody is investing? Do you believe they genuinely don't believe the proof which has been shown so far?
And what is your personal opinion on the donor regrowth that we've seen on the macro photos?
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Originally Posted by gc83uk
Why do you think nobody is investing? Do you believe they genuinely don't believe the proof which has been shown so far?
When Spencer interviewed Dr. Gho last year, Dr. Gho stated that he had a waiting list of "open-minded doctors" who were lining up to learn his technique from him. Where are those doctors?
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Originally Posted by gmonasco
a) Your dollar figures aren't realistic. Not every hair transplant doctor in the world is already making $200,000 per year, learning the HST technique wouldn't require an HT doctor to entirely forego his practice for a solid year, etc.
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Average Salary
The average salary of transplant surgeons varies by location. According to Salary Expert's survey of transplant surgeons' salaries in 10 major U.S. cities, average salaries ranged from as low as $219,254 per year in Houston to as high as $468,144 per year in Dallas. Those working in other major cities such as New York and Los Angeles made salaries of $396,951 and $435,741, respectively. The Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that the average salary of all surgeons was considerably less at $225,390 per year.
Read more: The Salary of Hair Transplant Surgeons | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8733011_sal...#ixzz1tSebp7jB
So there is quite a bit of money at stake here.... similar to FUE... and the radio... but what do I know
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