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    Quote Originally Posted by gmonasco View Post
    a) Your dollar figures aren't realistic. Not every hair transplant doctor in the world is already making $200,000 per year, learning the HST technique wouldn't require an HT doctor to entirely forego his practice for a solid year, etc.

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    The average salary of transplant surgeons varies by location. According to Salary Expert's survey of transplant surgeons' salaries in 10 major U.S. cities, average salaries ranged from as low as $219,254 per year in Houston to as high as $468,144 per year in Dallas. Those working in other major cities such as New York and Los Angeles made salaries of $396,951 and $435,741, respectively. The Bureau of Labor Statistics indicates that the average salary of all surgeons was considerably less at $225,390 per year.



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    So there is quite a bit of money at stake here.... similar to FUE... and the radio... but what do I know

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    I think it would cost more than 50k, but probably not the sums your talking.

    Gho would visit the new practise as he said, so it would take no time to learn. Plus it could be offered alongside FUE, but HST would be marketed as superior but also more expensive vs the cheaper no donor regrowth.

    There are people who simply don't care about donor regrowth, so the cheaper FUE would still be available.

    On a side note, I don't know why I can't get an answer to my relatively straight forward questions, posted earlier!

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    I appreciate gc's efforts but they don't convince me that I can go to Europe right now and get a quality HT while regenerating most of my donor. Based on what I've seen so far I definitely wouldn't pay money for it.
    I understand why others are more optimistic but I can't share in their positivity (yet).

    I freely admit that part of my suspicion is due to the source. Gho has burned this community before and I now approach his marketing and claims with extra skepticism, the same way I approach Gary Hitzig and ACELL for example. (A history of bad results, especially disfigurement, is THE biggest red flag for me in this industry--not just when it comes to skill but also ethics.)

    I could be wrong and would prefer if I was. I wish good luck to anyone who tries the procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    I freely admit that part of my suspicion is due to the source. Gho has burned this community before and I now approach his marketing and claims with extra skepticism
    But shouldn't this be more of a reason to support this initiative? If you truly believe that Dr. Gho is deceiving people, then something like this is the perfect opportunity to expose that.

    That's why I don't understand why anybody would be against this. The only ones who should oppose this are those who don't want the truth about this procedure to come out.

    All Spencer has to do is get in contact with Gho and/or one of his patients. Get a 3rd party to examine the percentage of donor regeneration and recipient yield, and the debate on HST is over.

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    Does Spencer get involved with this stuff?

    I mean I don't really know what he does on a day to day basis?

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    JJJJ: Nothing is wrong with your idea. I have a habit of jumping around on this forum and replying to the latest posts in a thread instead of minding the original post, so I apologize for getting off track.

    Kirby: Gho advertised hair multiplication starting in the early 2000's. It didn't actually work, the results were cosmetically poor, and the clinic went bankrupt.
    HST is a different procedure that he started performing in the last several years at a new clinic. Some feel it's the real deal this time, but I am still skeptical as of right now.
    Let me emphasize that I'm not a doctor nor do I have any special information about this clinic or procedure. It is possible that it works, but I felt compelled to leave my perspective, so there you have it.
    In all seriousness I hope it works, since it would address one of my biggest concerns about hair transplantation (donor supply).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    Does Spencer get involved with this stuff?

    I mean I don't really know what he does on a day to day basis?
    Who else can we really contact other than a top consumer advocate in the hair loss industry? I can't think of many more worthwhile things a consumer advocate in the hair loss industry can do than investigate HST. Either the hair transplant industry is ignoring a revolutionary treatment or a growing number of people are getting deceived.

    In the end, we all want to know whether HST works. But most of us don't have the resources, contacts, and visibility to really make a difference. Surely Spencer must be able to help in some way, give suggestions etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    Does Spencer get involved with this stuff?

    I mean I don't really know what he does on a day to day basis?
    I can't really speak to anything related to HST, but feel I can definitely answer this question. I know on a day to day basis Spencer works to assist people (men and women) dealing with hair loss via email and phone communication. I know this because he did it for me 13 years ago. Thirteen years ago I started to loose my hair as a result of coming off a high androgen birth control pill (Loestrin FE), I was 21 years old at that time and completely unable to cope or deal with what I was confronted with. I searched online for answers, but found none. In reading an article on some website, I found Spencer Kobren and sent him an email explaining my devastation and desperate plea for help. He didn't have to to write me back, but he did and that was biggest turning point in my life. Someone cared, someone listened and assisted me in seeing doctors that I would not have otherwise been afforded the luxury to see. There was no magic solution as a result of seeing these doctors, but that isn't the point. The point is he listened and took action to help a desperate 21 year old girl whom he had zero connection with or obligation to. That is indeed being a true consumer advocate. Much of this advocacy occurs with men and women behind the scenes, and things he never really ever does get credit for.

    Thoughout my hair loss journey I have been in communication with Spencer and he has to continued to help me during my darkest times. He was a catalyst in me starting my own women's hair loss support site, chronicling my own journey in dealing with hair loss and later creating my own community for women. I started my site in 2007 and had no idea how it would massively positively impact the thousands of women who came to it. Just knowing they weren't alone, was a push to help them get on the right track. All this positive change was a result from Spencer Kobren who cared enough to take the time to write back a complete stranger in need back in 1999.

    I get emotional and upset when I see people attacking the character of Spencer, because I do know him and know his heart has always been in right place. Not to long ago there was a massive smear campaign that was launched against him online, defamatory things were said, lies posted and unfortunately those posts are used by individuals today that dislike Spencer as some sort of proof that he is lacking in character. He is not.

    I often wonder where I would be if it were not for Spencer and I truly dare to even imagine. I am stronger today in dealing with my hair loss than I ever was before. It was his words of support and encouragement, his actions to assist in any way he could, along with the women on my site that are the reason I am fortunate to be where I am today mentally.. in my ability to cope with my hair loss.

    I apologize for taking this thread off track, I just wanted to speak out about something I do know about. Please feel free to jump this post and get right back to your topic.
    I am not a doctor. I am just another 34 year old girl who has been dealing with hair loss for 13 years. Everything I say is only my opinion and should be taken with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25 going on 65 View Post
    I appreciate gc's efforts but they don't convince me that I can go to Europe right now and get a quality HT while regenerating most of my donor. Based on what I've seen so far I definitely wouldn't pay money for it.
    I understand why others are more optimistic but I can't share in their positivity (yet).

    I freely admit that part of my suspicion is due to the source. Gho has burned this community before and I now approach his marketing and claims with extra skepticism, the same way I approach Gary Hitzig and ACELL for example. (A history of bad results, especially disfigurement, is THE biggest red flag for me in this industry--not just when it comes to skill but also ethics.)

    I could be wrong and would prefer if I was. I wish good luck to anyone who tries the procedure.
    thats a fair assessment. now please produce an example of Gho "disfiguring" somebody.

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    I don't know. It's a tough one. For sure it would get ugly again and there would be legal action. Tough one for Spencer really. If Gho could do it, it would be in his best interest to do a show case result putting 2300 up top every 9 months. I'd like them to figure this out but I'm leaning towards "real phenomenon but awful consistency in practice." I just get this horrible feeling that he's proven that it is can be done but it's much less effort to just split follicles and give a patient 6-7000 grafts over 3 or 4 procedures. Please let me be wrong.

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