Spencer, please help us end the debate on Dr. Gho's HST procedure!

[JJJJrS]

I've been a lurker on the hair loss forums for a while now and really appreciate Spencer's work with the Bald Truth. One of the topics that has interested me for the last year or so is the debate surrounding Dr. Gho and his Hair Stem Cell Transplantation (HST) procedure.

Dr. Gho makes two very interesting claims about HST:
1. Donor regeneration between 80%-95%
2. Minimal to no scarring

It is well known that the two biggest drawbacks of traditional hair transplant surgery are the limited donor supply and scarring so the significance of these claims should be very apparent.

Recently, there has been an analysis of BaldTruthTalk poster gc83uk's procedure with Gho that seems fairly compelling and indicates that maybe there is something behind Gho's claims (see Gho- Final Proof?). The results achieved on Dutch celebrities like Wesley Sneijder, Gerard Joling, and Dean Saunders, who have had procedures with Gho, are also interesting based on the minimal scarring and downtime, as well as the results in the recipient area.

Despite this, there is still no consensus on Gho's claims and one of two possibilities remains:
1. The hair transplant industry is ignoring a revolutionary procedure that drastically diminishes the effects of two of the most significant problems associated with hair transplants - limited donor supply and scarring.
2. Gho is misleading a growing number of people and the procedure does not produce the results that he claims.

In either case and regardless of where you stand on Gho and HST, I think it's in everybody's interests to find out if this is true or not.

Spencer is the top consumer advocate in the hair loss industry and seems like the perfect guy to investigate something like this. I do not believe it would be terribly difficult to verify Gho's claims.

What I propose is that Spencer gets in contact with Dr. Gho and/or a prospective patient and gets a 3rd party to scientifically and photographically investigate the donor regeneration and recipient yield. If it's also possible, I would love to see parts of the procedure recorded and/or have another short interview with Gho with more or our questions.

I really believe if actions similar to this are taken, it would settle the debate on Gho/HST once and for all! I really hope Spencer and the posters on this forum get behind this. I would love to hear what everybody thinks and whether you guys have any suggestions etc.

My intention is not to turn this into a debate on HST but rather what needs to be done to prove/disprove Gho's claims and settle the debate once and for all.

[NeedHairASAP]

I 2nd this.

At this point, Spencer is the only one that can push this forward, or hold it back.


Thank JJJJ for succinctly summarizing the situation and what needs to happen going forward.

[Follicle Death Row]

Yeah. We need to know one way or the other.

[NeedHairASAP]

Yeah. We need to know one way or the other.

there is nothing to know.

The hairs are regenerating, period. It's practically scarless, period.

What we need to know is why nobody else has adopted the technique

[CVAZBAR]

Yeah. We need to know one way or the other.

I'm with this.

[JJJJrS]

I think you should read up on the history of the FUE procedure. There was initially a huge amount of skepticism and resistance to it by some of the very same surgeons that offer it today. Spencer knows this first hand and was actually one of the few and most prominent people at the time who advocated in its favour. So there is clearly a huge precedence here.

Again, my intention is not to turn this thread into a debate on Dr. Gho and HST. There's plenty of threads/posts on here and other forums for that. The whole point of this thread is to find a way to get conclusive proof so that there is no longer a huge debate every time Gho and HST are mentioned. Given the claims Dr. Gho is making, I personally find it unbelievable that there still isn't a consensus on the procedure. I think this is something we can all agree on whether you consider yourself a supporter of Gho's work or not.

[Johny.track131]

Holy shit, i just noticed that Gho/HST spells out ... GHOHST which is really close to GHOST!! It's a trap, i knew it was fake all along, now we just need to call the ghost busters

[534623]

Holy shit, i just noticed that Gho/HST spells out ... GHOHST which is really close to GHOST!! It's a trap, i knew it was fake all along, now we just need to call the ghost busters

ghost busters? some ht clinics in the benelux countries called the ghost busters twice.

https://www.reclamecode.nl/webuitspraak.asp?ID=34179&acCode

and lost twice already.

besides many other factors, some respected and not ht field related medical doctors confirmed the claims of the ghost because the ghost treated their patients and they could observe the procedures as well as results on their own patients.

[mlao]

What ever happened to the online petition we signed to make the industry
aware of Dr. Gho's procedure?

[gmonasco]

HT doc's are making $200,000 to $300,000 a year as is. How much more are they going to make with HST? These doc's are booked up as is-- taking the time and money to offer HST isn't going to help them.

There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?

[JJJJrS]

There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?

Why weren't these less-established clinics offering FUE 15 years ago? In fact the vast majority of clinics either remained quiet or questioned the procedure! It was not until the procedure was conclusively proven that we began to see a wider level of adoption, a slow process even today.

So this argument "if Gho's claims are true, surgeons would be eager to adopt it" is not a very effective one in my opinion. Just ask Dr. Ray Woods, the original pioneer of FUE, or Spencer Kobren himself who was a part of the whole process. People aren't always open to change.

I'm sure many clinics are also waiting for that conclusive proof before they invest the huge amount of time, money, and effort that is going to be needed to offer HST. The only avenue to learn it really is through Gho and nobody knows what that process is like either.

I think we all want the same thing here though and that's conclusive proof that shows whether HST works or not.

[gc83uk]

Can someone please tell me in a sentence or two, what it is they need in order to believe there is donor regrowth? I feel like I've missed something.

I think to take the stance of, "if it really worked other Drs would have taken up this by now". That is naive.

[gmonasco]

Why weren't these less-established clinics offering FUE 15 years ago? It was not until the procedure was conclusively proven that we began to see a wider level of adoption

But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.

[gc83uk]

But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.

But it has already been proved hasn't it?

Perhaps it's not been proven for long enough!!!

Who decides when it has been officially proven?

[NeedHairASAP]

But that's the point. Clinics are reluctant to offer a treatment that hasn't been conclusively proved, and clinics aren't offering HST. The logical conclusion is that HST hasn't been conclusively proved, not that there's a vast conspiracy to suppress a superior treatment.

how much is the cost of changing to HST?

50k?


no, it is the cost of learning (50k), the cost of living where learn (your guess), and the income you forgoed while learning (year salary= $100,000-300,000), cost of training staff (your guess), cost of getting gho tools etc (your guess),


so the cost of changing to HST:

$500,000+



so...



dismiss HST as long as possible and take in $200,000 salary

vs.

pay $500,000+ and forgo at least a year to learn and implement a completely new biz strategy so you can book a few more surgeries from HST hype?








Unfortunately, doctors take into consideration more than if a procedure works.... these aren't uber -righteous heart surgeons.