Spencer, please help us end the debate on Dr. Gho's HST procedure!

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  • neversaynever
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 648

    Amazing to see a very well respected doctor admit that gho is making 2 hairs out of 1.

    I totally understand why he isnt adopting HST. Because gho will own him. Does anyone know the details of the patent gho holds?

    Does the patent stop others using those same DS cells or is it simply the instruments?

    Its such a shame that no other docs can investigate and develop their own HST, because Gho will continue to raise prices, where other clinics are trying to bring down their prices.

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    • Follicle Death Row
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1066

      Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
      please link to threads WITH pictures of the people he supposedly butchered... or WHATEVER your vague statements are referring to. Its p*ssy to say that and not post examples.


      and don't respond with "he had bad results"... I'd like to see the threads with pictures etc.

      if you're going to slander somebody, such as calling them untrustworthy because of a colorful past, then please post concrete examples....
      I never said he was a butcher. He certainly is not; that much is very clear. About a decade ago he said he had it cracked (regeneration) but the shallow lateral depth method didn't work out. I know there was little to no regen for most. I guess someone had to be the guinea pig but he promised the world and didn't deliver.

      Guys this time last year I was asking for Gho to be looked into because I thought it was very promising. I even emailed one of the top docs re the physiology of the method but got no reply. No surprises there. I'm only playing devil's advocate to get these questions answered. We need to know for sure. I appreciate the photos but how can you tell if it's working or not. You actually need hair counts in an area before and after which in practice isn't practical needless to say.

      What I am saying if you guys can follow this is, is that to date, we have no conclusive proof from photos alone. I also mentioned the Dr. Feriduni retraction this time last year so as I've said numerous times, it appears that the technique is actually based on a legitmate physiological phenomemon.

      I just don't understand how some of you guys can say "yeah the pics look good it's legit." I want something a little more comprehensive than that.

      C'mon guys it's healthy to ask questions here. I'm only trying to get to the bottom of this. You guys should also be pushing for someone to investigate this and maybe adopt the method if it turns out to be far superior. I thought that was the idea of the thread.

      Maybe Spencer can get in contact with Dr. Feriduni about this thing too. He seems like a standup guy.

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      • NeedHairASAP
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1410

        Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
        Maybe Spencer can get in contact with Dr. Feriduni about this thing too. He seems like a standup guy.
        THIS IS A GREAT IDEA



        in other news, my gho appointment is near... just a few more months of being bald....




        as far as comprehensive.... I think multiple celebs, GCs pics of obvious regrowth, and multiple peer reviewed journal articles highlighting the evolution of his research... are pretty "comprehensive".... i know an analysis done on a forum is not ideal, but did you not find ironman's analysis of GCs photos compelling?

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        • amadeus
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 295

          I can’t see how a group of doctors could sue Dr. Gho for anything, are you sure it wasn't the other way around? I can see Gho suing them if they sent out a press release refuting his claims of hair multiplication or contacted any state agencies to complain about him.

          This appears to be a retraction letter that might have been part of a legal settlement agreement. The language is complete legal speak. “ I deeply regret the content of our press release and realize that this inflicts great financial damage and loss of reputation on the HAIR SCIENCE INSTITUTE and I take back the content of that press release because the content is simply misleading.”

          This was written by a lawyer. I bet there are several more letters from the other people who were involved in sending out that press release that say the EXACT same thing. They probably did not want to spend any money defending themselves in a law suit and figured they would sign a retraction letter just to get out of it. This does not mean that Gho’s procedure does not work, it just does not prove that Feriduni believes that it does.

          Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
          dude Dr. Gho is a scam.

          He is not the best thing to happen to hair transplants since hair transplants.



          actually... wait... uh...

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          • damielmillo
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 77

            Guys, in 1 week i will have my procedure with Gho. I am really anxious.
            He told me to do 1600 grafts but i want more...Hope he can extract at least 1800 grafts.
            I have a very good Camera, so i will open a thread with my experience and checking for the donor regeneration.
            I am 25 years old, and i plan to book another procedure 9 months later.
            I Will Keep updated

            Thanks

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            • Davey Jones
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 356

              Originally posted by amadeus
              I can’t see how a group of doctors could sue Dr. Gho for anything, are you sure it wasn't the other way around? I can see Gho suing them if they sent out a press release refuting his claims of hair multiplication or contacted any state agencies to complain about him.
              My understanding of the situation is that Gho was sued by other hair transplant surgeons because he was claiming to do things that they thought were impossible, and they thought they were losing clients who were woo'ed away by his false promises. As the trial went on, the court decided the evidence was consistent with his advertisements, i.e. that they couldn't successfully sue him, because he wasn't lying, and he could do what he was saying.

              I have no doubt that the letter was written by a lawyer as part of a settlement, but it stands that the proceedings found Gho to be truthful in his assertions. How accurate those trials were, we can't say for sure. I am fairly ignorant to most things Gho related, actually. Hopefully we get some more pics up in this b*tch.

              damielmillo already mentioned that he will be taking pics to try to see evidence of Gho's claims. What about you, NeedHairASAP?

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              • gc83uk
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1340

                Originally posted by damielmillo
                Guys, in 1 week i will have my procedure with Gho. I am really anxious.
                He told me to do 1600 grafts but i want more...Hope he can extract at least 1800 grafts.
                I have a very good Camera, so i will open a thread with my experience and checking for the donor regeneration.
                I am 25 years old, and i plan to book another procedure 9 months later.
                I Will Keep updated

                Thanks
                Damiel are you able to upload photos of your donor area before the procedure also? As well as of course the donor regenerating. Good luck mate.

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                • damielmillo
                  Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 77

                  Mmm , now i have long hair. I think the day of the procedure Gho can take a picture of my donor before shave it.
                  Can i take my camera the day of the procedure? hehe

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                  • gc83uk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1340

                    This is a good question mate, your not going to get time to be taking any photos unless you insist. Gho will take photos with his camera, but it won't be easy to get hold of these photos, it will take too long. Trust me on this.

                    Are you just shaving a section of your hair or will you be shaving it completely? If your shaving it completely then you might as well shave it before you go right and take some photos?

                    Before my next (3rd) procedure, I'll be shaving it all over about 1 week before and taking close up photos of the donor for comparison after the extraction.

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                    • damielmillo
                      Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 77

                      If is necessary and will have better results...i will shave it all my head...
                      What Camera do you have? How do you take this great pictures?
                      I had try now with my camera but i can not get the same pictures like you.
                      I have a NIKON Coolpix 14 MP

                      Bye!

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1340

                        I also have a nikon coolpix s3000.

                        Go in a room with good lighting.

                        On the camera change the setting from 'Auto' and change it to 'close up'.

                        Also put the flash on by default, so it always flashes even if there is good light.

                        Take the photo about 5 - 10 inches away from your head keeping as still as possible, take about 10 pictures. I quite often ending up deleting about 10 photos before I find a good one with good focus.

                        If you can do that then you'll have perfect donor before pics which will be valuable when comparing to your after donor pics.

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                        • damielmillo
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 77

                          Thanks, i have the Coolpix S3100 so i think i must to have the same quality as yours...
                          I will take pictures next Tuesday and the following days...
                          The first 3 or 4 days you can not wash your hair?
                          Can i use a cap the first or second day, or will damage the grafts?

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1340

                            Are you having a strip shaved or will Gho's techs be shaving your entire head?

                            I'm just going to say this again in case you have misunderstood me, to have the best possible pictures then you would need to take a photograph AFTER your head has been shaved, but BEFORE the hair has been extracted by Gho.

                            If you don't want to shave your head, then I understand completely, I didn't and while trying to prove to others my donor regeneration, most people wanted to see the donor area photo shaved before extraction. Gho took some pictures, but you I know they won't be as good as the pictures I've been taking.

                            To answer your questions, you can wear a cap after the HST, but you have to be really careful. Obviously don't press the hat down too far. I had no choice but to wear a hat, there was no way I was walking outside like that without a hat onto a busy London road whilst trying to hail a london cab back to the train station. Are you having it done in London? I know a really good hotel which is a 2 min walk from the clinic if you need the details.

                            You can wash the hair 2 days after, but only gently with water first. Gho will give you all the after case instruction in an easy to understand chart showing day by day what you can and can't do etc.

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                            • Maradona
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 830

                              Originally posted by gc83uk
                              Are you having a strip shaved or will Gho's techs be shaving your entire head?

                              I'm just going to say this again in case you have misunderstood me, to have the best possible pictures then you would need to take a photograph AFTER your head has been shaved, but BEFORE the hair has been extracted by Gho.

                              If you don't want to shave your head, then I understand completely, I didn't and while trying to prove to others my donor regeneration, most people wanted to see the donor area photo shaved before extraction. Gho took some pictures, but you I know they won't be as good as the pictures I've been taking.

                              To answer your questions, you can wear a cap after the HST, but you have to be really careful. Obviously don't press the hat down too far. I had no choice but to wear a hat, there was no way I was walking outside like that without a hat onto a busy London road whilst trying to hail a london cab back to the train station. Are you having it done in London? I know a really good hotel which is a 2 min walk from the clinic if you need the details.

                              You can wash the hair 2 days after, but only gently with water first. Gho will give you all the after case instruction in an easy to understand chart showing day by day what you can and can't do etc.

                              hey gc, I have question if u don't mind. Does Dr. Gho take early stage pattern baldness patients? and does he do a minituarization study to see if the donor's stable?

                              If not, can you ask him? I'm thinking of getting my temples hairline fixed with Gho (at least there is no scarring and regeneration is prety obvious at this point) l might document my case as well.

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                              • yeahyeahyeah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1818

                                Originally posted by Maradona
                                hey gc, I have question if u don't mind. Does Dr. Gho take early stage pattern baldness patients? and does he do a minituarization study to see if the donor's stable?

                                If not, can you ask him? I'm thinking of getting my temples hairline fixed with Gho (at least there is no scarring and regeneration is prety obvious at this point) l might document my case as well.
                                I have been thinking about this too Maradona.

                                Only thing putting me off is price, and of course if histogens treatment interfares with Ghos.

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