Spencer, please help us end the debate on Dr. Gho's HST procedure!

[JJJJrS]

We want to see if there is a one for one ratio between the hairs in the extracted graph and the hairs that regrow in the donor. For example, Gho extracts a 3 hair graph and puts it in the recipient where it grows 3 hairs.... but does the donor scar heal back to another 3 hair graph?

That is the only question left to answer...

we do know FOR SURE that....

1. Down time is less
2. scarring is less
3. SOMETHING is regenerating in the donor (although it may or may not be a one for one exchange)

The evidence for what you wrote seems very compelling and I alluded to that in my original post. Even if you're certain that Gho's HST procedure works, this is a perfect opportunity to hear exactly what are the limitations to the procedure, beyond 5-20% of the harvested donor area not regenerating.

As we can see from just the few posts in this thread, the opinions on HST are divided. A lot of clinics and posters do not feel compelled enough by the existing evidence. My hope is that we can remove the debate and start discussing HST in the same way FUE and FUT are discussed today or if the procedure turns out to be a flop, move on.

sorry for being rude, but it has been long enough. if you have a weekly hair loss show... what else is there to talk about>? Rassman hair tats? Replicel speculation? what has he been focusing on for the last two months?

Spencer's done a lot of great things for the hair loss community so I don't think people should be rude to him. We really need his help with all this because he's one of the few guys with the resources, reputation and visibility to pull this off.

[neversaynever]

Im booked in with gho in 3 weeks time. Chuck me some cash spencer, and a 3rd party can analyse my results

[JJJJrS]

Im booked in with gho in 3 weeks time. Chuck me some cash spencer, and a 3rd party can analyse my results

If you're serious then this is absolutely perfect. All we need to do is find a neutral 3rd party who will do this type of analysis.

[yeahyeahyeah]

If you're serious then this is absolutely perfect. All we need to do is find a neutral 3rd party who will do this type of analysis.

how much does gho charge?

[Winston]

Im booked in with gho in 3 weeks time. Chuck me some cash spencer, and a 3rd party can analyse my results

Why would you need Spencer to give you cash to participate in this? You should volunteer your time. We don't pay Spencer anything for his time, we just expect him to do everything for us and then make demands of him. I'm all for you volunteering your time for this. I would volunteer mine if I were going to Gho and I'm sure everyone else on the forum would too.

[uninformed]

Why would you need Spencer to give you cash to participate in this? You should volunteer your time. We don't pay Spencer anything for his time, we just expect him to do everything for us and then make demands of him. I'm all for you volunteering your time for this. I would volunteer mine if I were going to Gho and I'm sure everyone else on the forum would too.

I understand your point but im pretty sure he was kidding about asking Spencer for money

[SpencerKobren]

Hey Guys,

I wanted to let you know that I skyped Dr. Gho after my program last night and invited him to do another interview and chat about finding ways to better establish more consistent verifiable findings for his HST technique. I have not heard back from him yet, but I hope I will soon.

As far as my personal ability to visually verify whether HST is a success or not, there are several real world issues that come into play that make this extremely difficult, if not impossible from what I have been advised. It’s important to state that I am not a physician or a scientist, I am simply a layman like most of you. From what I’ve been told by the experts, a visual assessment will not ensure that hair follicles are completely regenerating and certainly cannot provide any verifiable data as to whether or not the fibrotic tissue surrounding the extraction sites will inhibit or impair future transplantation of these follicles in subsequent procedures.

On another note, If this procedure truly proves to be what Dr. Gho claims it is, I would love to advocate for it within the hair transplant professional community, just like I did with FUE back in 1999. However, as others have pointed out, I have no magic powers to force physicians to incorporate any procedure into their practices. The real power lies with the hair loss consumer, as seen in the evolution of FUE. If patients come forward who have had great results with Dr. Gho’s techniques en masse, the medical community will listen. I have zero control over the evolution of this technique, it simply comes down to verifiable evidence, and consumer demand.

I also think it might be in the best interest of the hair loss community, and Dr. Gho’s HST technique if some of the more vocal posters suggest to Dr. Gho that he train 10 or so physicians in this technique at no charge. It would not effect Dr. Gho’s long term business model and since physicians will continue to pay his company for all supplies needed for HST, he’ll still be profiting right away from this approach. An effort like this might just help to get things rolling in a positive direction if in fact HST is consistently successful. Once this is proven, it is my view, that physicians will be lining up to pay the $50,000 training fee.

I will keep the community updated concerning my communication with Dr. Gho.

[gmonasco]

Last time, gc83uk took really nice clear pictures of his donor which were analyzed and seemed to indicate there was a significant amount of regrowth. For a lot of people this wasn't conclusive evidence. So what will it take to conclusively prove HST?

I'd like to see photographic evidence documenting donor regrowth on Dr. Gho's own site, but I don't. Is it not there, or have I just missed it?

[gmonasco]

Just because a new technology or way to do something is available that doesn't mean every one is going to jump on it.

But we're not talking about "everyone"'s offering HST. The point is that nobody has adopted HST.

How long did it take auto makers to adopt seat belts, ABS system, airbags....?

That example argues against your point: Various auto manufacturers were offering all those technologies long before they became common or mandatory. Even if everybody wasn't using them, at least some manufacturers were using them.

[JJJJrS]

In 2009, a number of hair restoration and cosmetic surgery clinics from the Netherlands and Belgium sued Dr. Gho and his Hair Science Institute clinic for false advertising based on the claims he was making about his HST procedure.

On both occasions this was done, the courts ruled in Dr. Gho's favour.

Here's a retraction from Dr. Feriduni, who's a well respected hair transplant surgeon specializing in FUE:



Feriduni Retraction

More information can be found on HASCI's website under the "News" and then the "File: Hair Stem Cell transplantation" sections.

Certainly, gives credit that Dr. Gho is doing things that other hair transplant surgeons cannot. Once again, I think we should all get behind this initiative so that we can develop a full understanding of HST and its limitations.