Pre-mature Norwood 4 at the age of 26?

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  • JJacobs152
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 293

    Pre-mature Norwood 4 at the age of 26?

    Was Norwood 3 for quite sometime. Now, I have a birthmark on my left temple which I started to follow during the beginning of my last semester. Now the birth mark has become fully visible due to the receding hairline. Currently using 2% Nizoral and Minox foam.

    Also, does this message board not allow members to send private messages?





  • JJacobs152
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 293

    #2
    Just FYI, here are comparison pics from last May.

    Good evening everybody. Just wanted to get your opinion on seeing which type of NW would I be classified under. I'm 25 years, and going to turn 26 real soon. Was thinking of getting HT done towards the beginning of 2013, once I'm done with med school and have finished the boards. So basically, for another year and a half. If

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    • mpb47
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 676

      #3
      After reading this board and Dr Rasemans (?) I have concluded that I don't understand how to read the NW stages.

      With that said you do look like you have had a lot of regrowth compared to your older pics so the minox must be working for you.

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      • mattj
        Doctor Representative
        • Oct 2009
        • 1422

        #4
        I think you need to have made a certain amount of posts before you can use the PM function. What that number is I don't know.

        It's tough to tell how much change there's been (whether for the better or for the worst) because of the difference in hair length. I'd say you're still around a NW3 though. A NW3 with diffuse thinning.
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        • Tracy C
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 3125

          #5
          Hi JJacobs152

          I agree it is difficult to tell if there is improvement or if it is getting worse. From this picture, it does look like a Norwood 3 with diffuse thinning. I am guessing from these two threads that you have been treating your hair loss for about a year. If that is correct, it may still be too soon to tell if you are going to improve or simply arrest the loss. Are you working with a doctor or are you doing this on your own? Are you also taking Finasteride?

          Take care,

          Tracy

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          • mpb47
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 676

            #6
            Originally posted by Tracy C
            Hi JJacobs152

            I agree it is difficult to tell if there is improvement or if it is getting worse. From this picture, it does look like a Norwood 3 with diffuse thinning. I am guessing from these two threads that you have been treating your hair loss for about a year. If that is correct, it may still be too soon to tell if you are going to improve or simply arrest the loss. Are you working with a doctor or are you doing this on your own? Are you also taking Finasteride?

            Take care,

            Tracy
            Tracy,

            Look at his first picture from last year. I know his hair is longer now, but doesn't it look way more miniaturized in that older picture? I wouldn't think he could grow it out as much as he has if it was still so miniaturized?

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1527

              #7


              A teenager with an early onset of male-pattern baldness befriends his high school's janitor.

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              • JJacobs152
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 293

                #8
                Originally posted by mattj
                I think you need to have made a certain amount of posts before you can use the PM function. What that number is I don't know.

                It's tough to tell how much change there's been (whether for the better or for the worst) because of the difference in hair length. I'd say you're still around a NW3 though. A NW3 with diffuse thinning.
                That's something I wish I didn't hear. I wish my hair loss would follow the typical hairless pattern. It was fine while it was receding at the temples, but now the diffuse pattern has kicked in.

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                • JJacobs152
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 293

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tracy C
                  Hi JJacobs152

                  I agree it is difficult to tell if there is improvement or if it is getting worse. From this picture, it does look like a Norwood 3 with diffuse thinning. I am guessing from these two threads that you have been treating your hair loss for about a year. If that is correct, it may still be too soon to tell if you are going to improve or simply arrest the loss. Are you working with a doctor or are you doing this on your own? Are you also taking Finasteride?

                  Take care,

                  Tracy
                  Tracy, thanks posting. I was actually pretty neglectful on the hair loss and only started to get proactive about it from last August. Started to put Minox. foam before going to bed. The pictures in the old thread was after I had shaved my head and let it grow out for a few weeks.

                  I am going to start on Fin in 2 weeks. Using Nizoral 2%, minox. foam, and will have the last piece of the triad.

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                  • JJacobs152
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 293

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 2020
                    Yeah, I hope my hair doesn't get to that.

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                    • Tracy C
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 3125

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JJacobs152
                      ...but now the diffuse pattern has kicked in.
                      Actually, it looks diffuse in both the before and after photos. So there is no need to take that as a bad sign. It's the difference in hair length that throws off the comparison.

                      It sounds like you are only using Rogaine foam once a day. If so, taper up to twice a day for the next year while you are taking Propecia. How often are you using 2% Nizoral? Make sure you are not using it more than twice per week.

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                      • JJacobs152
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 293

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        Actually, it looks diffuse in both the before and after photos. So there is no need to take that as a bad sign. It's the difference in hair length that throws off the comparison.

                        It sounds like you are only using Rogaine foam once a day. If so, taper up to twice a day for the next year while you are taking Propecia. How often are you using 2% Nizoral? Make sure you are not using it more than twice per week.
                        Yeah, I was using Nizoral incorrectly for the longest time. Was using it daily, and then wasn't properly applying it into my scalp. Applied it properly and let it sink into the scalp. I can see it's made a good difference already with respect to the flakes.

                        As for using Rogaine twice/day, I'm not a big fan of how the hair looks/feels after it has dried off.

                        The thing I'm most worried about diffuse thinning is, it seems like it doesn't fall into any specific Norwood pattern. I'm hoping a HT surgeon won't find myself as a good candidate for a future procedure.

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                        • mattj
                          Doctor Representative
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1422

                          #13
                          I really think there should be a diffuse hairloss classification on the Norwood scale. It's common enough to warrant it so it's a bit of an oversight really.
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