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    exactly....

    This is what makes Merck money:

    singulair: 3.5 billion
    Cozaar, Hyzaar: 3.1 billion
    Fosamax: 3.1 billion
    Zocor : 2.8 billion
    .....

    do you think Merck even cares about their 400 million ( 3% from their total profits if only you were to count those 4 products I've listed) from Propecia whose sales will certainly crash in 2013 after its patent expires.

    So there you have it: IT MAKES NO FINANCIAL SENSE for Merck to buy up all those companies that have the cure for hair loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    So there you have it: IT MAKES NO FINANCIAL SENSE for Merck to buy up all those companies that have the cure for hair loss.
    Or anybody else. The pharmaceutical industry isn't one monolithic entity; it's a group of multiple, competing companies. Even if Company X doesn't want to see a hair loss cure on the market because it might cut into sales of one of their existing products, there's no motivation for every other pharmaceutical company to act similarly. They'd all love to put out something that would stomp all over a competitor's product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    reported as a troll.

    come on where's your sense of humour, i'm hardly trolling.



    and gmonanco, we'll have to agree to disagree, sorry if you found that offensive. I am not going to waste any more time arguing with someone who, in my opinion at least, is desperate to ignore the bigger picture. for the record I hope I am wrong just like the rest of us would like to see baldness be a thing of the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    and gmonanco, we'll have to agree to disagree, sorry if you found that offensive. I am not going to waste any more time arguing with someone who, in my opinion at least, is desperate to ignore the bigger picture. For the record i hope i am wrong just like the rest of us would like to see baldness be a thing of the past
    read my latest post.

    It simply makes no sense for anyone to spend billions of dollars to prevent the hair loss cure from coming into the market.

    You lost this argument. Thanks for playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    read my latest post.

    It simply makes no sense for anyone to spend billions of dollars to prevent the hair loss cure from coming into the market.

    You lost this argument. Thanks for playing.

    It does not take a genius to realise drug companies make money out of creating treatments whether or not they come to market. This is the reason they do spend money and genuinely try to come up with stuff. You see curing baldness and making money from curing baldness are not the same thing.

    When they are successful and create a real promising treatment that looks like a cure, a bigger player comes in and buys them out either by giving them money for the patent or buy buying the company out. I am not saying this is always going to be the case but I believe its happening often and is a result of the greedy capitalist system and its exploitation of the medical industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    It does not take a genius to realise drug companies make money out of creating treatments whether or not they come to market.
    what?? Wouldn't they LOSE money since they spent so much of it on research and development for that particular treatment??


    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    When they are successful and create a real promising treatment that looks like a cure, a bigger player comes in and buys them out either by giving them money for the patent or buy buying the company out. I am not saying this is always going to be the case but I believe its happening often and is a result of the greedy capitalist system and its exploitation of the medical industry.
    what are you trying to say??? If Replicel came up with a cure, someone would buy it out in order to keep that treatment off the market? WHY!!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    When they are successful and create a real promising treatment that looks like a cure, a bigger player comes in and buys them out either by giving them money for the patent or buy buying the company out
    That's just absurd. No one company is such a big player in the hair loss market that by pursuing such a strategy they wouldn't end up spending as much money buying up all those patents and companies then they were taking in from sales of their existing hair loss treatments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2020 View Post
    what?? Wouldn't they LOSE money since they spent so much of it on research and development for that particular treatment??

    no they get given the money for the patent, or they get bought out by Johnson & Johnson etc



    what are you trying to say??? If Replicel came up with a cure, someone would buy it out in order to keep that treatment off the market? WHY!!?!
    yes, if replicel came up with a cure, the big guys with vested interests in propecia, rogaine etc would buy them out or buy the patent off them. to get all the people who would otherwise be on the big 3 to go out and spend money on a cure.. the market price would have to be as low as $20,000 i think that's a probably high estimate but anyway... now someone like me who uses $1600 hairloss products a year is worth a lot more to them (roughly $50,000) assuming i continue with treatment until I am 50 yrs old so its a no brainer to them, keep the one off cure out of the market as it equals over 50% reduction in profits

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmonasco View Post
    That's just absurd. No one company is such a big player in the hair loss market that by pursuing such a strategy they wouldn't end up spending as much money buying up all those patents and companies then they were taking in from sales of their existing hair loss treatments.
    a broken clock is still right twice a day my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by jman91 View Post
    a broken clock is still right twice a day my friend
    And you're right two fewer times per day than a broken clock is.

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