Propecia and its effects.

[chrisis]

I also want to make the point: 2% sounds like a low figure. It is. However, let's say it's even 3% inaccurate - feasible considering the trials to date have been limited in number and we don't know much about the methodology or potential for bias.

So, if the number of men suffering side effects was even 5% rather than 2%, we would see 2.5x the anticipated number of men reporting adverse health implications. Accuse me of jumping to conclusions but I think this is exactly what is happening.

[DAVE52]

Those days seem to be long gone and I blame finasteride entirely..

Could be the anxiety / stress you are feeing about your hairloss

[DAVE52]

I understand finasteride is more beneficial for the crown and I have zero loss there anyway. I will be looking at getting a hair transplant to fix my hairline in the near future.Thanks for your post, Soothsayer.

Be prepared that as you age you will most probbaly lose your crown hair also

I did

Now I sport the bald crown and the stress, anxiety of walking around with hair in the front 1/2 or third of my head and a bald crown is nagging on me .

Hairloss s*cks

I wish I had the balls to buzz or shave it all off and just say F*ck it and get on with my life

But I now have the happy face scar to deal with

[chrisis]

I'm hopefully I won't lose my crown. From the back I have the hair of a teenager, it's just my stupid receded bits also the grandfather on mother's side apparently didn't lose his crown but did have a receded hairline like mine.

As for anxiety/stress about hair loss causing an impairment to my sexual health: doubtful. As I've repeated on the forum several times, I didn't experience any problems until 2-3 months after starting finasteride. It's not like my stress suddenly heightened at that time. Makes no sense.

I'm puzzled why we have a zillion excuses about what is causing these side effects and avoid the fact that finasteride is intentionally taken to disrupt the male hormonal system. There's no smoke without fire. Keep the theories coming. I'll grab some popcorn.

[DAVE52]

I'm hopefully I won't lose my crown.[/IMG]

So was I

Once it starts , it keeps going

It's never ending until it 's all gone .

That's why when I see guys get HT's to dense up the hairline ONLy I wonder what they will look like in 10 yrs

And I am one of 2 % who has side effects , so Im f*cked there too

Good luck in whatever you coose to

[DAVE52]

I'm puzzled why we have a zillion excuses about what is causing these side effects and avoid the fact that finasteride is intentionally taken to disrupt the male hormonal system. There's no smoke without fire. Keep the theories coming. I'll grab some popcorn.

The people who are lucky and don't get any side effects will say it's perfectly safe and to take it

I guess unless you take it and see if you get the side effects you'll never know

But soem of us do experience them

[justeone]

Hey guys , just wanted to share my finasteride story...
currently 25 years old . Got a prescription for Proscar about 6 months ago and have been taking approx 1.25 mg Monday - Wed- Friday..skipping the weekends..a leading hair restoration Dr said to take it this way. . I have not had any side effects yet..and hope I won't get any. I was also reading somewhere that .25mg daily or eod is just as effective for stopping hair loss as 1mg a day... I feel that it is having a positive effect on my hair, ive noticed less shedding and my current hair line seems to be holding.
Anyway , I think 1mg a day of finasteride is too much...no wonder why so many people get sides off this drug...its building up in our systems and blocking our penis chi . Personally, I started with a 3 week loading phase of half the dose I take now ,for I was terrified of the side effects. I think everyone should do this just to find out how it works with your body..anyways guys , thanks for listening ... now i pray for a cure. amen

[chrisis]

That's why when I see guys get HT's to dense up the hairline ONLy I wonder what they will look like in 10 yrs

I suppose it's a risk some of us feel it's worth taking. Perhaps within 10 years we'll have a cure. I do wonder how those of us who choose to have hair transplants will feel if there's a simpler and less invasive remedy just around the corner.

[sausage]

Well I am thinking of getting a hair transplant at some point.

Replicel will have some results of their research next month and if their news is positive I won't be getting a hair transplant.

So fingers crossed.

[sausage]

Finesteride drugs are now going to carry a prostate cancer warning as they can increase the risk of getting a serious cancer called high-grade prostate cancer. Whic is a rare cancer. It is thought the increased risk of getting this cancer through taking Fin is small.

[chrisis]

Replicel will have some results of their research next month and if their news is positive I won't be getting a hair transplant.

Yeah I'm definitely keen to hear what they have to say. If it's positive it might change my mind about having a hair transplant, but that said it would still take up to 3-4 years to come to market. Can you wait that long? If I was 20, I'd say yes. At 28, I'm not so sure.

[sausage]

Yeah I'm definitely keen to hear what they have to say. If it's positive it might change my mind about having a hair transplant, but that said it would still take up to 3-4 years to come to market. Can you wait that long? If I was 20, I'd say yes. At 28, I'm not so sure.

Umm thats a tough decision to make, I am 27 so am in a similar position to you.

If it was pretty much guaranteed to come out in 3-4 years from now then I would wait. But even if the results are very positive I doubt we will have a solid date for when the cure could come to market.

I have just started taking Propecia and I will see how that goes as well.

So at the moment I am waiting on Propecia to work its magic on me and also Replicel to give the balding world some good news.

[captainmoon]

As for anxiety/stress about hair loss causing an impairment to my sexual health: doubtful. As I've repeated on the forum several times, I didn't experience any problems until 2-3 months after starting finasteride. It's not like my stress suddenly heightened at that time. Makes no sense.

Just curious -- what were the circumstances of your "crash"? Were you just unable to achieve an erection one day and concluded that it was related to your finasteride use?

How much anxiety do you experience today over your sides? Is it something that you think about and stress over regularly throughout the day? Do finasteride-related thoughts/stress come to your mind while you attempt to masturbate or have sex now?

I think these are details that should be addressed. No normal person can be expected to have a functional sex life unless their minds are clear and free from distractions. Hell, I know I can barely get it up on days when I'm tired/stressed/annoyed/have a lot on my mind/etc. and I'm not even on finasteride.

I'm not trying to diagnose you, just want to know the details of your situation. These are questions I wish I could ask some of the members on the Propecia Help site. I've been on there quite a bit recently and I'm honestly appalled by it. So many young men who have absolutely nothing wrong with them (took finasteride for 2 days, claim their erections are "not at 100% anymore" ) and truly feel like their lives are over. They read about a certain side effect on there and suddenly realized they have it too, so on and so forth.

I've said it before, but I'm very confident that a portion of men who experience sides do so because they begin the drug expecting to. Having one bad day where they can't get it up throws them into a frenzy that they can't seem to recover from. It's like a domino-effect, and websites like Propecia Help do nothing but feed the fear and keep people like this sick.

[chrisis]

Just curious -- what were the circumstances of your "crash"? Were you just unable to achieve an erection one day and concluded that it was related to your finasteride use?

For the first month or so I actually experienced higher libido than usual and everything was fine. Side effects gradually creeped up on me. It may have been a few weeks of lower than usual libido before I was consciously even aware of it. This is graphic (but has to be to), the moment of realisation was one day when I hadn't came in awhile and my load was a pathetic drool and not very pleasurable. I realised my dick was starting to feel numb and libido was through the floor. I'd apparently been either ignoring it or denying it, but the lack of cum was a very real manifestation and sign that something wasn't right. I've been a heavy cummer ever since puberty.

I discontinued taking finasteride and more than a month later I know things still aren't right.

How much anxiety do you experience today over your sides? Is it something that you think about and stress over regularly throughout the day? Do finasteride-related thoughts/stress come to your mind while you attempt to masturbate or have sex now?

It's on my mind for sure. If I go to jerk off and my dick feels less sensitive than usual then how can it not be? I might even use vaseline or something to help it along. Then when my load is pathetic I realise I'm still stuck with these side effects. I don't actually feel stressed to be honest, just aware. I'm unhappy that things aren't how they were, but I can still function and I'm optimistic/hopeful that things will return to normal in time.

I've said it before, but I'm very confident that a portion of men who experience sides do so because they begin the drug expecting to.

This might be so if we're talking about the inability to pop a boner now and then or libido taking a bit of a dive, but how do you explain that pre-finasteride I had loads of precum and came loads, then post-finasteride, I get no precum, and a watery, pathetic dribble of a load. Yes I can still cum, but not gonna lie that I miss the explosive orgasms I used to have. You can't explain these physical changes saying I'm stressed and such. I've been through much more stress in my life before and never experienced such crazy problems.

I hope this clarifies things for you. Wish I was making it up.

[NotBelievingIt]

TMI Chris, TMI!! LOL