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    Surgeons Patient advisors/representatives, do these people get paid on commission?

    I think it is completely wrong if they do.

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    What makes you ask that question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdav View Post
    What makes you ask that question?
    Well I sent consultation photos to several clinics a few weeks back In the mean time I have been emailing a representative of one surgeon who features on here a lot.

    After a week I got a response from someone who represents the same clinic.

    For some reason he asked me to send photos in for consultation although I had already done so, not sure why.

    I told him I had sent some to another colleague of his and that I was going to send some further photos in to his colleague of me with longer hair. But he told me I should send these photos to him.

    It just made me a bit suspicious and I could only think he was after commission.

    It may just be me being skeptical but thats the way it came across.

    I do hope these people do not work on commission, that would concern me as that would indicate they are all about the money and this should not be about money.

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    It is probably a mix up Sausage.

    I know that Spex is salaried and not commissioned as he runs his own property business and he had been on here for years helping people for nothing,most people know that.

    He is the only rep I know who participates that doesn't do it for money.

    Regarding others, I cannot pass comment as I don't know.

    But all the doctors and representatives read the major forums, so the manner in which you conduct yourself on here will not be appreciated by them stating this publicly on here.


    Who are you refering to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdav View Post
    But all the doctors and representatives read the major forums, so the manner in which you conduct yourself on here will not be appreciated by them stating this publicly on here.


    Who are you refering to?
    1. I have not conducted myself in any negative manner thankyou!

    2. Why the hell are you saying I should not state this publicly on here and then you ask me who I am referring to!!!

    Probably the most ridiculous thing to say ever.

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    Sausage.

    Clearly you think that the manner in which you have conducted yourself is appropiate as you continue to do so on the forum.

    If you were financially astute, Why would you publicly state on a major forum that you had £25,000 in the bank for a hair transplant?

    That would play in to the hands, if they were of such.

    It is a schoolboy error.

    Starting threads like this, patient advisors/consultants will instanteously take a dislike to you and may even be unwilling to help you if they come to find out who you are.

    It even suffices to say that you are indirectly questioning Spencer Kobren's morals as he would NOT recommend surgeons on here, who would pray on potential newbie patients for a quick buck.

    Act with some dignity before you type your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    Surgeons Patient advisors/representatives, do these people get paid on commission?

    I think it is completely wrong if they do.
    Just my two cents on the matter. I personally do not care how Patient advisors/representatives get paid as long as they are conducting themselves in an ethical manner.

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    Salary, not commission and proud of it. That's the way I asked it to be set up since I wanted to keep my conscience clean. We also don't have sales meetings, don't have quotas and do not receive performance bonuses. Living as a NW6 with a pluggy hairline during my 20's makes it difficult to do it any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    Just my two cents on the matter. I personally do not care how Patient advisors/representatives get paid as long as they are conducting themselves in an ethical manner.
    I know where you are coming from Tracy but trust me, if a clinic does set-up an environment of "commission earnings", it actually produces a competive environment. The clinics who compensate their consultants on a commission basis are almost always, if not always, money driven, and so their reps are put in a position to meet quotas and goals. Their reps are trained to "close the deal", not necessairly to think of the patients' best interest. This includes saying no to desperate individuals who are driven emotionally by their hairloss yet may not even be a candidate for HT surgery.

    Yet the consultant may have a slow month going and has rent, car payments coming up. The reps have to answer to their sales managers as to why their not closing more surgeries and really put the pressure on.

    It puts patients across the board at higher risk of being sold, not properly counseled. How many times do we hear about someone being sold a HT and did not even need one! He/she puts up their before pics and you and I and others are telling them that they never even needed a HT. Yet the fatal mistake many patients make is to tell the consultant or doctor that they already have the money to pay for a procedure.

    I still hear about it to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sausage View Post
    Surgeons Patient advisors/representatives, do these people get paid on commission?

    I think it is completely wrong if they do.
    Sorry I saw this thread a bit late however:

    I have been saying this same thing for years and completely agree with you!
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