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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1527

    #16
    Originally posted by clandestine
    You're forgetting profit garnered by hair transplantation surgeons, who by all means aim to preserve the current state of affairs in the name of economic self-interest.
    yes, and? How could they possibly prevent Replicel or Histogen from coming up with a cure and effectively "stealing" all of the profits from hair transplant surgeons??

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    • NotBelievingIt
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 595

      #17
      Originally posted by 2020
      yes, and? How could they possibly prevent Replicel or Histogen from coming up with a cure and effectively "stealing" all of the profits from hair transplant surgeons??
      He's not saying they are preventing it.

      He's saying they aren't doing anything to help the situation. Only profit from it.

      who by all means aim to preserve the current state of affairs in the name of economic self-interest

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      • Tracy C
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 3125

        #18
        Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
        It hasn't been cured because billions are made each year on propecia, minoxidil and similar pointless and quasi-proven medical solutions.
        It is sad how misguided and misinformed you are.

        There is no conspiracy. Well, maybe there is - but that conspiracy is from people like you who are trying to convince others that bogus "natural" treatments are valid treatments. From others like you who are trying to steer people away from proven treatments so they can waste their time, money and hair on bogus "natural" treatments that do not work, have never worked - and never will work... Now that is a conspiracy.

        Hereditary hair loss is a natural and normal human trait. Trying to "cure" hereditary hair loss is like trying to "cure" blue eyes or blonde hair. You might as well put your efforts into stopping the world from turning - you will likely have much better luck.

        Not all hair transplant surgeons are worried about cell based treatment. Many are just as excited as we are because they are in this to help people. Sure some are in it solely for the money but not all.

        I do not believe cell based treatments will eliminate hair transplant surgery. Some surgery will still be needed. It will most certainly cut down on how much surgery is needed but it won't completely eliminate the need for surgery. The only way cell based treatment will eliminate the need for medication is if it can immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT.

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        • gmonasco
          Inactive
          • Apr 2010
          • 883

          #19
          Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
          He's not saying they are preventing it. He's saying they aren't doing anything to help the situation.
          Which is an absurd statement, similar to blaming your mechanic because GM doesn't build better cars.

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          • NotBelievingIt
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 595

            #20
            Originally posted by gmonasco
            Which is an absurd statement, similar to blaming your mechanic because GM doesn't build better cars.
            It is not absurd in the least. People work off incentives. Welcome to the human condition.

            I'm sure there are plenty of HT surgeons who welcome a new technology to help people. They will adjust and adapt. As I mentioned in another thread, its likely a HT will still be required in some cases even with stem cell treatments unless hair lines are restored as part of that process. In fact, the desire for absolutely superb hairline or other fine tuning work will drive the need for a higher skill set and thus higher cost of those. These guys will continue to succeed.

            Just as I'm sure there are plenty of HT surgeons who will refuse to adapt and go out of business. The richer folk who can afford the stem cell treatments, who would otherwise spend buckets on HT's, are now a lost revenue. The HT surgeon will have to drop his prices to attract those who otherwise couldn't afford even a HT, not to mention the stem cell treatments. That may mean a new, different customer base but its hard to say whether it would be a replacement revenue base.

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            • WashedOut
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 112

              #21
              Originally posted by NotBelievingIt
              It is not absurd in the least. People work off incentives. Welcome to the human condition.

              I'm sure there are plenty of HT surgeons who welcome a new technology to help people. They will adjust and adapt. As I mentioned in another thread, its likely a HT will still be required in some cases even with stem cell treatments unless hair lines are restored as part of that process. In fact, the desire for absolutely superb hairline or other fine tuning work will drive the need for a higher skill set and thus higher cost of those. These guys will continue to succeed.

              Just as I'm sure there are plenty of HT surgeons who will refuse to adapt and go out of business. The richer folk who can afford the stem cell treatments, who would otherwise spend buckets on HT's, are now a lost revenue. The HT surgeon will have to drop his prices to attract those who otherwise couldn't afford even a HT, not to mention the stem cell treatments. That may mean a new, different customer base but its hard to say whether it would be a replacement revenue base.
              So explain to me why Bosley bought Aderans and invested 150 million dollars into it. They should be pretty happy with the situation they're in now making money. The difference is they see other companies trying and they don't wanna be caught behind. The reality is treating baldness just isn't easy just like making a blind guy regain sight isn't easy. It takes a lot of time and hard work.

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              • Maradona
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 830

                #22
                Originally posted by gmonasco
                Your profound grasp of the obvious never ceases to amaze me.
                Youre like the dudemon of baldtruth bro : ), it's nice to have someone to give us a reality check .

                No Sarcasm intended.

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                • NotBelievingIt
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 595

                  #23
                  Originally posted by WashedOut
                  So explain to me why Bosley bought Aderans and invested 150 million dollars into it. They should be pretty happy with the situation they're in now making money. The difference is they see other companies trying and they don't wanna be caught behind. The reality is treating baldness just isn't easy just like making a blind guy regain sight isn't easy. It takes a lot of time and hard work.
                  Well, consider that if Aderans is successfull, that $150M will turn into $1B of equity + revenue stream. So they're covering their butts on lost revenue for one.

                  Plus, "Hair Restoration Experts" would be a lie if they didn't offer the new technology. They've made themselves a relatively well known name and they want to keep it that way.

                  Plus I'm sure they have good hearts. Like I said, some will go with the flow others won't.

                  Look at various technology shifts throughout history. Why do you think Eastman Kodak is out of business now? They refused to go the way of digital even though it was deadly obvious it was the future. They started their digital trip way..way to late.

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                  • 2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1527

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WashedOut
                    So explain to me why Bosley bought Aderans and invested 150 million dollars into it.
                    Probably a smart move... If Aderans proved to be successful, they could distribute that treatment fast and easy through the thousands of Bosley offices around the country.

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                    • mlao
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 387

                      #25
                      Originally posted by WashedOut
                      So explain to me why Bosley bought Aderans and invested 150 million dollars into it. They should be pretty happy with the situation they're in now making money. The difference is they see other companies trying and they don't wanna be caught behind. The reality is treating baldness just isn't easy just like making a blind guy regain sight isn't easy. It takes a lot of time and hard work.
                      It's the other way around Aderans who are a huge company in Japan bought Bosley.

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