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    Folly, I know what the doctor told you is probably one of the worst things anybody wants to hear, EVER. I remember when my HT doctor told me almost a year ago that I had this condition that caused my transplanted hair to fall out and that there was nothing I could about it. After 4500 grafts and a decade of going through one HT after the other it was one of the most devastating things to hear. I was literally numb from the shock. Add to that the ****ing most massive shed ever to hit me that left my hair thinner every where and I tell you, I wish I could just bury myself as far deep into the ground as I could. I just can't face life or the world any more, not that I ever could.

    Not only am I not meant to have a full head of hair (at least in the front), but I'm not meant to have a life altogether. I guess I have a purpose on this ****ing planet -to suffer. And no, my suffering isn't limited to just my hair loss problems.

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    I understand your feelings, VictimOfDHT, in the last paragraph you wrote. I oftentimes think that my purpose on this earth was to endure a lifetime of suffering. Oftentimes I think that God can't make everyone happy and I'm one of those people that was unfortunately destined to live a life of misery. With all this misery I'm going through now, I'm beginning to question if there even is a god in the first place. I don't know what god would put us all through this hair loss misery. With me though, my misery is all related to hair loss. I had some problems before I started noticing my hair loss, but those were nothing major at all. However, once hair loss hit me, it totally altered and destroyed my otherwise good life. Everything has changed since hair loss hit me like a ton of bricks. I recently ran into a few weightlifting buddies that I haven't seen in about 6 years. What really killed me was that they looked totally the same now as they looked in 2005, while I look totally different because of my hair loss. They of course didn't comment on my hair loss though because I always wear a bandanna when I lift now. It just kills me because they used to know me back then as a big, confident guy and now I'm just a fragile shell of what I once was due to this goddamn hair loss curse.
    Damn, this forum is supposed to be about loss of transplanted hair and I just went off on a major tangent!! Sorry for that!!

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    Depressedbyhairloss, this isn't only about discussing the loss of transplanted hair. Like I mentioned in my reply, even though my hair loss was a big factor in why I feel miserable, it wasn't the only one. I've had a shitty tough life since I was a child and I can honestly say I've never enjoyed a day in all the past years since I was 10 but nothing has destroyed me and my life like the struggle with this ****ing curse (hair loss). I really used to think god is fair and he knows all the shit that I have gone through and still going through and probably will die going through and really believed he wasn't going to add to my misery and torture by hitting me with this curse. ****, even after I started losing hair I thought ok, at least I could get HTs, and for a while I thought ok god didn't exactly save me from this curse nor did he give me millions of dollars to throw around on HTs but NEVER in a million years did I ever imagine that god was going to hit me with another curse on top of the one I already have- causing me to even lose my transplanted hair. I could never get over this. My face looks the worst ever. I always looked years younger than my age but since the last shed I have lines all over my face from the stress and anxiety. Of course having a newly receded hairline and temples -all over again- only makes things worse in the looks dept. I can't even stand looking in the mirror any more because I really see a different person. I usually leave the lights off in the bathroom so I won't have to be reminded of how miserable I look now.

    **** life. Nothing good about it, at least for some of us. Nothing makes sense about life. Some people were born to suffer while some were born to have all the fun in the world. And no, it ISN'T all in our hands. That's a total load of shit that I can't stand listening to (from people).

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    Folly

    I really feel for you , hairloss is devasting at whatever age it starts . I have been on a twenty year quest to be repaired, after all the scarring and poor growth from several Drs , not to mention the costs , truely sole destroying !!

    At the moment im considering a second procedure with BHR as the first one of grafting beard hair into my massive acell scars, is looking pretty good, so far , I asked bhr if you were a patient of theres and they stated ` NO ` .. just wanted to clarify this as somewhere in the thread someone commented " sounds like bisanga " which is not the case .

    Im wondering if a small test of beard hair say 50 grafts or so may help you , see what the growth is like and move forward from this , if your in europe there are a couple of Drs who are well worth consulting with, either way I hope you can find some satisfaction for your situ . Dont give up !

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    Speaking just for myself I would say that I am very reasonable, open minded and open to intelligent debate. But how exactly do you respond to someone that just decides to take a guess about something or literally just make it up. Of course I am bothered by doctors and clinics that are not completely truthful with patients but nothing turns my stomach more and I truly mean it, than a person that comes on to the forums who was a former patient and is supposed to be a patient advocate but feels it’s okay to just make something up. Yes, it looks like this persons work or it sounds like something that clinic would do. This is supposed to be a patient advocate: It is taking ethics to a new low and I say this as patient that has been completely screwed over by the deception of this industry. This is the problem with those that are paid by the same industry in which they profess to be an advocate for the customer.

    I read that comment about who the advocate thought the doctor was when it was originally posted but just kind of laughed. I really had expected other paid advocates or even the forum moderator to chime in. The reason being is that he makes you all look bad while making it hard for prospective patients to believe what they are reading here. When someone who is suppose to be credible just decides it's okay to make sh*t up you know their is a problem.

    Sometimes all one needs to do is point out the dots and hopefully others can connect the lines. This is just the world we live in today. Who is the good guy, who is the bad guy. Too often the lone voices get drowned out by those that control the medium so it is up to each individual to educate themselves. Don’t trust anybody including me and make sure you understand this industry completely before making a decision.

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    VictimOfDHT, I totally agree with that last paragraph you wrote. People always tell me the same thing too, that it's all in our hands and that life is what you make it. I sure as hell don't buy that anymore. After all, I didn't cause this hair loss to happen to myself and hair loss restricts a person's life, affecting a person's ability to get a good-looking girlfriend to playing in a true rock n roll band to a person's confidence most of all. People who don't suffer from hair loss truly cannot even comprehend what we're going through and are usually the ones to offer such stupid bullshit advice as "hair doesn't make the man" and "looks don't mean as much as inner qualities". I have tried to make so many deals with God, saying that if He would somehow give me my hair back, I would do anything in return like praying every day of the year and volunteering my own time to charities. But I guess that's too much to ask. And you're right, some people (people who aren't tied down by baldness) seem to have all the fun while others are just afflicted with constant misery. Hell, I used to be the one having constant fun until hair loss severely ruined my life.

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    Ejj, i'll be happy to clarify who the HT surgeon was in a few months when i can see the final results. Although currently at 8.5 months, it looks like there wont be any. My HT surgeon has been very helpfull and met with me whenever i've asked, to answer my questions. Lets see what he offers if i don't have any results.

    Victim, i'd like to say something like 'keep fighting' or 'you'll get through this', but i got a feeling you're passed all that. 2011 has been the shittest year of my life. I had a HT when i didn't need one and now it's triggered off my MPB bigtime. I never shed like this before the HT and i fail to believe it's a coincidence. After not having acne in almost 10 years, i've had quite bad breakouts the last 5 months or so, all due to stress according to the dermatologist. I've also had an erection problem the last 6 months or so. I've been seing an endrochronologist about it, but he says it's all in my head as my hormones/blood work is fine. Although i must admit, the boner problem has gotten much better the last 3-4 weeks, which is why i decided to start propecia. I've only been really depressed that last 6 months or so, but i'm still pretty optimistic about stuff. I guess if i have to deal with this shit for years like you, my spirit will also be broken. I feel for you bro !! You too DepressedByHairLoss.

    The hair loss on my hairline is really bothering me now. I went to a non-surgical HT clinic last week, who specialise in hair-pieces. Wearing a piece is a lot of hassle and expensive, but i'm willing to put up with it for a while. Assuming i have no growth in 2 months, i'm planning on going to Feller/Cole in the US. Up until that time, i'm considering wearing a hairpiece. The guy i saw had one on and it was impossible to tell it was a hairpiece. He said if it's hard-bonded, you can't even pull it off. The only downside, if someone rubs their hands through your hair, they might be able to feel the edges of the hairpiece.

    Have any of you guys ever considered hair-pieces ? What puts you off them ?

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    No worries Folly ,

    Dr Bisanga is doing my repair .

    When someone makes a remark ( sounds like bisanga ) it can set the alarm bells off thinking has something changed with the Dr ? Has BHR got "arty the robot " doing the work ! has there been a change of techs.. ! all these Qs can spring to mind, thats why I wanted to know that it wasnt BHR, and not who your Dr is /was, thats entirely up to you to disclose or not , and not for people to second guess based upon little or no known evidence .

    Your at 8.5 months i really hope you get a growth spurt soon and manage to slow the loss , on a positive note at least you dont have a big scar as you had FUE

    all the best
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    Hey Folly, first off thanks for the kind & empathetic words. With regards to your question about wigs: there are plenty of reasons that I wouldn't get a wig. First off, a lot of them can be very detectable, even when they're from a reputable place. One of my friends got one because he's a lead singer and didn't want to front a band as a bald man. He went to a very reputable place (not a chain like Bosley or Hair Club) that actually serviced celebrities. Yet plenty of people still could easily detect that it was a wig, both when he was onstage and when he was off stage regularly interacting with people. And that would really be devastating to me if people could detect, and make fun of me, for wearing a wig. He has one of those semi-permanent ones that was bonded/glued onto his head. I know that those can require lots of maintenance. When you sweat, they tend to come loose and during the summertime I know my friend needed to re-attach his piece every other day. They cost a lot of money to maintain, at least $350 a month for re-attachment and other things to help bond it in place. One last thing is that I believe that since these semi-permanent wigs needs to keep being bonded and glued onto your head, the hair underneath the wig can get permanently damaged and I definitely do not want that, especially since vastly superior treatments like Histogen and Replicel are hopefully on the way. It just kills me that so many of us are so determined to fight hair loss yet we're stuck with such shitty option like wigs and the Big 3 (what a joke that is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DepressedByHairLoss View Post
    VictimOfDHT, I totally agree with that last paragraph you wrote. People always tell me the same thing too, that it's all in our hands and that life is what you make it. I sure as hell don't buy that anymore. After all, I didn't cause this hair loss to happen to myself and hair loss restricts a person's life, affecting a person's ability to get a good-looking girlfriend to playing in a true rock n roll band to a person's confidence most of all. People who don't suffer from hair loss truly cannot even comprehend what we're going through and are usually the ones to offer such stupid bullshit advice as "hair doesn't make the man" and "looks don't mean as much as inner qualities". I have tried to make so many deals with God, saying that if He would somehow give me my hair back, I would do anything in return like praying every day of the year and volunteering my own time to charities. But I guess that's too much to ask. And you're right, some people (people who aren't tied down by baldness) seem to have all the fun while others are just afflicted with constant misery. Hell, I used to be the one having constant fun until hair loss severely ruined my life.
    You know, people who don't suffer from hair loss will never understand what people who suffer from hair loss feel. Hell, even some of those who do suffer from hair loss don't understand what other sufferers feel. Like I always say, no two people will react to the same problem the same way, but people never want to understand this fact. That's why some hair loss sufferers don't give a damn. But what pisses me off is they expect us all to feel the same way, which is IMPOSSIBLE. They have no idea how debilitating hair loss can be to some of us. My own brother always tells me I'm making such a big deal out of something that isn't worth it! That's why I don't argue with him much because it's futile. The same thing with the rest of the people out there.

    As for making deals with god. I tell you it does NOT work. You know, god doesn't really get any benefit from us praying to him day and night. He doesn't really need it. And I tell you, I believe in god but I don't believe prayers work. Well, maybe they do .000001% of the time. I have yet to hear about a balding man getting his hair back by praying to god. Not even the most religious and pious man. I myself used to pray to god every single day for many many years to save me from this curse. Well,...
    You have better chances winning the lottery 3 times in a row than having your prayer answered. But on the other hand, I can't put the blame on god. It was my father who was bald and my mother was from a family where the men don't have thick hair. So to be realistic about this, I think if there was one to blame its my parents, and I DO BLAME them big time. It was their choice to get married and not god's. And simple biology tells me that we inherit our genetics from our parents. God just "sits" and watches but rarely interferes. Yes, he could stop my misery and stop my hair loss and give me my lost hair back but like I said, god isn't going to intervene in these things. If god was going to answer all of our prayers there will be no more misery on this planet, PERIOD. So, I have come to the realization that I should NEVER expect any help from god in these matters. And again, I hold my father 99.9% responsibility for my suffering and my misery and I put .01% of the "blame" on god because I know if he wanted to change things he could do it in a sec too.

    I don't know. This whole ****ing life doesn't make any sense to me. Nothing in it does. Like why is there hair loss to begin with? What ****ing purpose does it serve? Why some people have it and why most dont? Of course this isn't just about hair loss. Like I said, I have yet to find anything in this life that makes sense.

    As for the guy asking about wigs. I don't think I'll ever do that. They're just not practical. I'd also feel I'm only fooling myself. I'd rather glue a hat on than wear a wig. I never want to hear people say "he's wearing a wig". That would kill me. I think people stare more at wigs than they do at bald heads.

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