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    Default bald spot starting?

    These pics were taken about 10-15 mins after i showered but i dried my hair pretty much.

    I dont know if I am starting to bald there or what cause i have a mirror that looks behind and above my head and it seems normal but then in pictures under the light it looks bad. what do you guys think? btw if more pics or different pictures are needed let me know. im freaking out!!!!

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    i think u are

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    A couple of things...

    You need to get some help taking these pics. If you are going to try keeping an eye on it, you will need much more consistent pics - and much better pics. You want to keep everything as much the same as possible. Same camera, same back ground, same color shirt, same lighting, same hair cut and same poses. Limit variation to the absolute minimum possible... Consistancy consistancy consistancy. Take these pics every other month for a year.

    During that year, start using Nizoral A-D shampoo as directed on the bottle. Check to see if you are a good candidate for low level laser therapy and if you are, consider getting a laser comb - and use that as directed. Maybe look into taking a quality Saw Palmetto Complex and take that as directed. I don't know if that supplement will actually help or not - but I keep reading about it in different places so maybe there is something to it.

    http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair.../saw-palmetto/

    If at the end of the year you feel your crown (vertex) has thinned out some more, start using Minoxidil and talk to your doctor about Propecia (or generic 1.25mg Finasteride).

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    Often people start to panic because they see the top of their head or crown in bright lighting for the first time (or in the case of the crown they weren't used to seeing it at all). I do think you might have some slight thinning though. There seems to be a slight loss in density around the 'whorl'.

    You would've mentioned if your hairline was receding, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy C View Post
    A couple of things...

    You need to get some help taking these pics. If you are going to try keeping an eye on it, you will need much more consistent pics - and much better pics. You want to keep everything as much the same as possible. Same camera, same back ground, same color shirt, same lighting, same hair cut and same poses. Limit variation to the absolute minimum possible... Consistancy consistancy consistancy. Take these pics every other month for a year.

    During that year, start using Nizoral A-D shampoo as directed on the bottle. Check to see if you are a good candidate for low level laser therapy and if you are, consider getting a laser comb - and use that as directed. Maybe look into taking a quality Saw Palmetto Complex and take that as directed. I don't know if that supplement will actually help or not - but I keep reading about it in different places so maybe there is something to it.

    http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair.../saw-palmetto/

    If at the end of the year you feel your crown (vertex) has thinned out some more, start using Minoxidil and talk to your doctor about Propecia (or generic 1.25mg Finasteride).
    Will do, but Im already taking saw palmetto twice per day and have been for a month now. What is low level laser therapy? Im willing to try it if it can keep the thickness of the sworl there.


    Quote Originally Posted by mattj View Post
    Often people start to panic because they see the top of their head or crown in bright lighting for the first time (or in the case of the crown they weren't used to seeing it at all). I do think you might have some slight thinning though. There seems to be a slight loss in density around the 'whorl'.

    You would've mentioned if your hairline was receding, right?
    Considering these pics were also taken in bright light it makes it look worse but even in general i do think its very early stages of thinning at the top a bit and the sworl part ofcourse too.

    My hairline was receeding a tiny bit, could just have gone into a mature hairline though. My hairline is all good for now, then this swirl thinning comes up...

    Right now im taking saw palmetto 2x per day, and putting coconut oil and emu oil on my scalp over night and using nizoral 2 percent three times per week. ive been doing those 4 things for a month now since mid september.

    Im just very confused because in regular lighting looking at the back of my hair through a mirror it looks like a relativly normal swirl and even two weeks ago i got my haircut and my hairdresser of 5 years thinks everything is normal and that im not balding. wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    What is low level laser therapy? Im willing to try it if it can keep the thickness of the sworl there.
    http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/medi...laser-therapy/

    About four years ago, my primary care doctor at the time told me about it when I first asked about treating my hair loss. I've been using a laser comb ever since. I don't know if it made any hair grow back but I do know that it made the hair I have stronger and look better. I definitely saw improvement within the first four to six months. Low level laser therapy does not work for everyone though. The only way to find out if it will work for you is to make sure you are a good candidate and try it. So make sure you are a good candidate for low level laser therapy before you buy a laser comb. It is expensive, though they do have a less expensive version now... Just so you know, I was not a good candidate but I was not a bad candidate either. I bought one anyway and I am very glad I did.



    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    Considering these pics were also taken in bright light it makes it look worse but even in general i do think its very early stages of thinning at the top a bit and the sworl part ofcourse too.
    My hair restoration doctor takes my clinical photos in very bright light. That way he can more clearly see if I am improving. The poses are:

    Looking stright ahead.

    Looking down a bit - enough to show the top of my head.

    Looking down to the left a bit (about 45 degrees).

    Looking down to the right a bit (about 45 degrees).

    From behind while I am looking straight up.

    My sister helps me take my own photos every two months using these same poses.



    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    Right now im taking saw palmetto 2x per day, and putting coconut oil and emu oil on my scalp over night and using nizoral 2 percent three times per week.
    You are using Nizoral too often, especially considering you are using the 2%. Once per week is plenty when you have the 2% formula.

    I've never read anything about the oils you are using. I have read that Aloe Vera gel with vitamin E is supposed to be helpful - but you don't leave it in over night. You leave it in for a while then rinse it out.

    What I have read about Saw Palmetto is that it should be in a complex form. Not straight Saw Palmetto. This is a link from Nature's Bounty. I've only used this link because I am familiar with the brand. I do not use the product. The supposed benefit does not apply to me. I am quite sure any other band with the same ingredients will do the same thing - if this stuff does anything at all.

    http://www.naturesbounty.com/PRODUCT/006052

    Ingredients PDF:

    http://www.naturesbounty.com/VF/LABELS/L006052-NB.PDF

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    Will do, but Im already taking saw palmetto twice per day and have been for a month now. What is low level laser therapy? Im willing to try it if it can keep the thickness of the sworl there.




    Considering these pics were also taken in bright light it makes it look worse but even in general i do think its very early stages of thinning at the top a bit and the sworl part ofcourse too.

    My hairline was receeding a tiny bit, could just have gone into a mature hairline though. My hairline is all good for now, then this swirl thinning comes up...

    Right now im taking saw palmetto 2x per day, and putting coconut oil and emu oil on my scalp over night and using nizoral 2 percent three times per week. ive been doing those 4 things for a month now since mid september.

    Im just very confused because in regular lighting looking at the back of my hair through a mirror it looks like a relativly normal swirl and even two weeks ago i got my haircut and my hairdresser of 5 years thinks everything is normal and that im not balding. wtf
    Sometimes hair dressers can just be too nice.. out of all the hair dressers I've had, I've only been told by one that my hair is looking in bad shape (due to hair loss).
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    Dr Rassman of balding blog states that in his opinion the laser therapy doesn't work for hair loss at all. I admit that I am also very sceptical - i went to a hair clinic this week to have my hair loss confirmed but the laser therapy just seemed like an expensive selling point. There is no proof that it works at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gh05 View Post
    Dr Rassman of balding blog states that in his opinion the laser therapy doesn't work for hair loss at all.
    Dr. Rasman is not the only doctor who insists that low level laser therapy does not work at all. Just because these people are doctors doesn't mean they know everything - nor does it mean that anything they say is gospel... There are just as many doctors who feel low level laser therapy does help some people in some way. I have actually been using the laser comb for four years. I know what it does. I know from my own first hand experience that it does do something appreciable and beneficial for some people. So it does not matter to me if one doctor or another says it can't work... I know better.



    Quote Originally Posted by gh05 View Post
    There is no proof that it works at all.
    That is not true. The efficacy has been proven in clinical studies that lead to FDA clearance - more than once. A common misconception is that the FDA clearance is just for safety only. That is not true. The manufacturer also had to prove efficacy to get the clearance.

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    Hey Tracy hope your having a great start to your weekend!!!

    So again I made the list of stuff I should purchase which your recommended;

    -Aloe vera with Vit E
    -Mens Rogaine foam 5%
    -Generic liquid minoxidil 5%
    -Aveeno nourish and moisturizer shampoo and conditioner
    -laser hair comb

    As I said im shaving my head or getting a short cut Sunday (and taking pics) and then starting my treatment on Monday. Yesterday i was searching online for the Hair Club as my dad mentioned them, (he was going to be one of their toronto lawyers when they were starting up in the 1980s) so I checked out their website and got a free consultation just to check the place out for shiits and see what they had to say.

    They took pictures of my crown and its definetly starting to thin, they said to put me on a 6 month program (for 2 grand) where they would give me;

    -free laser hair comb and 6 month supplies of;
    -Moisturizing/revitalizing cleanser
    -extreme scalp cleanser spray
    -energizing conditioner
    -vitamins which have Vit B3, D, E, and biotin and herbal remedies such as saw palmetto
    -and finally 5% minoxidil

    And on top of that I go into to see them once per month to get photos re taken and laser treatment and scalp massages.

    Im not sure if $2k is worth joining mens hair club as I can buy these shampoos, conditioners, minoxidil elsewhere (for probably cheaper) and i already take the proper vitamins. Only thing that appeals to me is the free laser comb because my mother wants one for the house as she wants to use it. So she would pay for that so id have to cover $1500.

    I was also suprised that they have did not mention nizoral at all because i feel it is a key part of hair regrowth/maintenance.

    Other than the laser comb part, I felt good being there because i like how they want to track my progress and i can call my consultant whenever i want to ask her questions or anything or come in to see them. I checked out reviews on them and people generally do not like them because a lot of people try to fix their baldness when its too late and expect great results, luckly my hair is still very good (as u saw on first page) compared to those people with many many dead hair follicles so i know if i went with them i would get my thickness back.

    When you were going through your hair loss did you go to a club similar to them just to get information/ track progress or did you just go out and buy everything yourself after your transplant?

    btw heres the link to the treatment they offered me;
    http://www.hairclub.com/new/extreme-hair-therapy.php

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