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Gho is tissue engineering if you wanna name it. TRX2 is just plainbullshit plain bullshit i never believed in.
But there have alwas been reports of regenerated donor even in tradtional transplants
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Dorkins. You are a moron. An idiot of absolute and unfathomable proportions. To think I actually used to respect you. I'm embarrassed to think that once I thought you added value to this community.
For any new readers here. Dorkins comes here and frequently prattles on about Gho, yet nobody has seen any macro photography to prove that Gho's technique works well. That it works isnt the point - how well it works is what we want to know.
Dorkins has also never acknowledged that Gho merely practices FUE - but with a super small needle that leaves enough of the follicle to grow back. Dorkins certainly doesnt mention that the follicle can be be killed in the process. Think about it - Gho is essentially dissecting your freaking follicle. Its never going to be a 100% success rate.
Then Dorkins comes here and tells the community that Histogen is dead. The same Dorkins that talks about science used his same powers of deduction to conclude that a mere change on the Hstogen site meant that they were out of business and that the millions of dollars of recent investment money somehow vanished.
Basically folks I'm starting to wonder if Dorkins isnt trying to win himself with Gho to get a free transplant - because he clearly knows nothing about scientific process, Gho's business or Histogen's business.
Fact.
p.s. Gho just changed a photo on his website! He's taken a few images down. OMG Gho is dead. Sorry folks. Gho is no longer.
Just kidding. But that illustrates what Dorkins did when he spotted a change on the Histogen site. This is the caliber of individual we're dealing with.
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Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
Gho is tissue engineering if you wanna name it. TRX2 is just plainbullshit plain bullshit i never believed in.
But there have alwas been reports of regenerated donor even in tradtional transplants
I never liked you. But in this point, I agree with you.
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Kiwiw there is nothing of value in you statement. Its just childish what do i know. Sorry leave conversations if you dont have anything to contribute.
Ask different FUE clinics about "if they ever saw donor regeneration on a small scale" they will surely say Yes (so they are liars as well right?)
Answer me why do Researchers like Histogen and Gho refer to Gho findings in their papers etc?
And seriously get over my statements, you seem to sound like IronMans Twin Brother or something, this douchebag is also obsessed like shit with me because i am the only one who actually talks to him.
Gho actually added some pictures at his website instead of taking them down.
So the Alaska meeting is over and no big announcements? Strange right, Histogen is dead in terms of " As we want them to be" now they are down to
"Well HSC could benefit donor healing" great this is the sugar coat version of "Not the HSC that we expected"
A lot of congresses passed and now updates, they didnt even start the next trial phase hmmmmm wonder whys that right?
I think a lot of people (except you you little hate filled boy) are asking those questions themselves because Histogen was way ahead of everyone and they blasted out news after news, but what happens now, everything is silent, at best it could benefit donor healing. Hmmmm what should patients think of this.
Also i wouldnt have said anything but if TWO out of TWO important notes are taken down from a website, well i begin to wonder. And dont tell me "With the cache you can access this trial page" this doesnt count, i am talking about the website in this form
Also why isnt Dr Ziering posting by some things?
You are only crying and insulting because you were under the impression that with HSC you get one injection and your youthfull hair back. Which wont never work with HSC, never.
Here from the Histogen website, you freak and tissue engineering basher
"While continuing in vitro and preclinical studies to support its primary therapeutic programs, HSC and oncology, Histogen has been able to explore other indications and produce proof-of-concept data that supports further development in these areas. Such applications include medical device coatings, tissue filler for various indications, and a post-procedure application for advanced healing."
Now WHERE is there something in terms of injectible with hair regeneration? All i read are in fact THINGS WHICH ARE MORE FOCUSSED ON A GHO APPROACH WITH TISSUE ENGINEERING RATHER THEN FANCY INJECTIONS
And now, go insult your parents and leave this board
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Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
Kiwiw there is nothing of value in you statement. Its just childish what do i know. Sorry leave conversations if you dont have anything to contribute.
Ask different FUE clinics about "if they ever saw donor regeneration on a small scale" they will surely say Yes (so they are liars as well right?)
Answer me why do Researchers like Histogen and Gho refer to Gho findings in their papers etc?
And seriously get over my statements, you seem to sound like IronMans Twin Brother or something, this douchebag is also obsessed like shit with me because i am the only one who actually talks to him.
Gho actually added some pictures at his website instead of taking them down.
So the Alaska meeting is over and no big announcements? Strange right, Histogen is dead in terms of " As we want them to be" now they are down to
"Well HSC could benefit donor healing" great this is the sugar coat version of "Not the HSC that we expected"
A lot of congresses passed and now updates, they didnt even start the next trial phase hmmmmm wonder whys that right?
I think a lot of people (except you you little hate filled boy) are asking those questions themselves because Histogen was way ahead of everyone and they blasted out news after news, but what happens now, everything is silent, at best it could benefit donor healing. Hmmmm what should patients think of this.
Also i wouldnt have said anything but if TWO out of TWO important notes are taken down from a website, well i begin to wonder. And dont tell me "With the cache you can access this trial page" this doesnt count, i am talking about the website in this form
Also why isnt Dr Ziering posting by some things?
You are only crying and insulting because you were under the impression that with HSC you get one injection and your youthfull hair back. Which wont never work with HSC, never.
Here from the Histogen website, you freak and tissue engineering basher
"While continuing in vitro and preclinical studies to support its primary therapeutic programs, HSC and oncology, Histogen has been able to explore other indications and produce proof-of-concept data that supports further development in these areas. Such applications include medical device coatings, tissue filler for various indications, and a post-procedure application for advanced healing."
Now WHERE is there something in terms of injectible with hair regeneration? All i read are in fact THINGS WHICH ARE MORE FOCUSSED ON A GHO APPROACH WITH TISSUE ENGINEERING RATHER THEN FANCY INJECTIONS
And now, go insult your parents and leave this board
you do realise that they were probably talking about another product called regenica for donor healing right? Why would they bother presenting anything at all if they were "dead"?
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Another smart ass.
Ask yourself one question " For which product would you personally do all the commercial stuff? For a wound healing device or something which solves baldness?"
And no they just give informations about stuff which is not from interest, in our case
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Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
Another smart ass.
Ask yourself one question " For which product would you personally do all the commercial stuff? For a wound healing device or something which solves baldness?"
And no they just give informations about stuff which is not from interest, in our case
Why wouldn't you commercialise a finished product, whilst your other product is currently being developed?
The corporate model was brought on so that businesses won't be restricted by the physical limitations of sole traders.
Yes, whilst it may be quite profound for you, Histogen can and should promote other products whilst HSC is still developing.
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Originally Posted by RichardDawkins
Another smart ass.
Ask yourself one question " For which product would you personally do all the commercial stuff? For a wound healing device or something which solves baldness?"
And no they just give informations about stuff which is not from interest, in our case
So do you now know what has been presented by Histogen at the ISHRS meeting then? Because I've been asking and no one else on here has any idea. If you've got the information I'd love to see it, can't believe that there's nothing of interest in our case when Dr. Ziering's presentation was supposed to be about the 2 year results and phase I/II trial. Plus do you even know what they've presented at the previous meetings they've attended? Again as far as I know nothings been released. I know it's annoying that we're not hearing anything but in the last email I had from Eileen at Histogen she actually said that the regulating bodies don't like it if the company release too much info to the public.
I don't wanna add to this whole arguement, to be honest it makes me sick that there's all this fighting between users of the forum, isn't the whole point of this thing to support each other? Richard.Dawkins I'm sure you're gonna insult me for this but I agree with many others, I used to repect your opinions and was interested in what you had to say but recently you've become a lot more like IronMan. It's a shame, don't know what's happened to you but maybe you should get off the forums for a bit, it doesn't seem as if they're doing you any good.
The other thing you could do is go and get yourself booked in with Gho, have his proceedure and then come back and post detailed photos of the results. You'd be doing us all a favour and benefitting yourself at the same time.
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UK Boy, do you listen to the show on Sundays? I don't think there was a show this past weekend but I'm sure Spencer would probably talk about the presentations in the next show. This is why nobody has said anything, I guess. As for Richard Dawkins, I used to think he was a cool cat also but as long as people continue to feed the trolls, they wont stop. That's the problem at Hairsite. Everyone keeps responding to those idiots, so it never ends. If we all ignore them, this won't happen. Let's not feed the Trolls.
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Well i dont think that i am a troll. Right now Dean Sunders a full blown NW6 guy with a scratch at NW7 got a nice NW1 hairline done by Gho :-) so i have to say
Tissue Engineering 1 vs "HM injections" 0
Also they planned 3 more sessions to see what then should be done, and this is well something for a NW6. What happenes now? Who is gonna ring the red phone of the hair transplant clinics to offer HST?
Anyone? Well all i say is, if you want a real solution in the few next years without relying on comb over and toppic, you should ring rang all the clinics you can get to offer HST or else some people here will swim in a lot of problems
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