All Propecia users,,, come here please !!!

[khan]

I'm not sure they'd ever accept it. Hair loss seem almost religious in nature at times; seems having faith is a big part of some of the treatments and marginalising certain facts is central too. I'm sure you can see the comparisons.

I must also make the point that we shouldn't need studies to say 30% or more experience side effects. Even 5% or more would implicate a much larger number of men and imply that side effects were a pharmacological consequence of the drug itself. If the initial studies had indicated 5% or more, I'm not sure the medication would have been approved at all and we'd definitely not see it prescribed so loosely on the internet.

Yea, I can see your point. If 1,000 people take the drug then the difference of 2% and 5% can mean 20 and 50 people getting the side. So thats an additional 30 people getting sides. And when you think of people and not just numbers thats ALOT more!!

Now given that there are thousand and thousands of people taking the drug the difference b/w 2% and 5% is alot more crazy. But maybe I am off here, but I think for most people its not the sides, but the persistent sides that are the problem.
I mean, someone tries tries the drug gets the sides, its disspointing, but basically you are back to square one, and atleast the person knows he tried. But "Persistent Sides" now thats a whole different story. No one signs up for these, which is perhaps the big issue, and I think thats what the noise is about.
In these studies (the independent ones) I think if they were any persistent sides, I am sure they would have reported it. I have spent enought time as a grad student to know that the more your research challenges the accepted norm the higher the likelihood of it being published at a top journal.Obviously in a convincing way, hence the term "ground breaking" research .
So the 10year study I linked, if there was someone with persistent sides I am sure they would have made it a point to report it right in the abstract.
For the record, I am not an expert, but I do believe that persistent side effects probably do exist for propecia, as for alot of other drugs. But the chances of that happening are completely blow out of proportion.

A few years back I would spend alot of time on bodybuilding forums, still remember this one dude, all juiced up on anabolic steroids, and growth hormones, blaming Finasteride for his low-libido. The possibility of sides from this other crazy stuff didn't even occur to him or anyone else on that thread, they were so into getting all jacked up, they refused to even consider that possibility.