Dr. Alexander:My nightmare experience

[DAVE52]

I feel bad that you did not get the results you had hoped for
And I understand how vulnerable we are as we start losing our hair and sometimes we are not thinkg rationally
Seems from your story that you may have had several red flags but because you thought the HT would work out you still went through with it .
I hope whatever you do goign forward works out
So far this story is good example for others .
If there are any doubts , postpone

[Mr. 4000]

I feel bad that you did not get the results you had hoped for
And I understand how vulnerable we are as we start losing our hair and sometimes we are not thinkg rationally
Seems from your story that you may have had several red flags but because you thought the HT would work out you still went through with it .
I hope whatever you do goign forward works out
So far this story is good example for others .
If there are any doubts , postpone

it is amazing, when you make up your mind you don't even see the red flags or you ignore them. Some I ignored and others I didn't see. I didn't want to turn back. It took a lot to line up for me to make a decision like this, turning back at that time would have meant I would have never scheduled a HT.

More red flags to come...

[Mr. 4000]

I finally got to Pheonix with many bumps in the road, I had a plane go down and my flight was canceled, I was in the airport for 8 hours before they pulled the flight and I had to drive home, this was for a July 22nd date. I was on the phone with Dr. alexander from the airport telling him the situation and that I wouldn't be able to make it. This was a sign without a doubt not to go through with this, I drove home and thought about it and rescheduled, the day of my second flight it rained like hell I drove to the airport in a downpour, another sign not to go out there. just some added drama to add to everything else.

anyway, I finally made out there and thought that I would meet the sales rep or someone to start going over some of the details of the surgery, when I asked I was told that they don't do that just show up at 7am at the office to prep. This was a another thing I really didn't understand based on what other doctors do. I am coming from across the country and they don't even want to plan anything?

I wake up from my hotel and taxi to the office in the morning. Right on time and there is only one person in the office at that time. I was saying to myself what the blank is going on here. I am spending a ton of money flew across the country and the doctor wants me to be here so we can get started right away and he strolls in 25 minutes late, walks right passed me and barely says hello or greets me as he walks in a very small office lobby. I should have walked out at that moment. What am I dealing with here?

I signed a waiver while waiting for him to show up, that includes all the warning signs that would protect a doctor from any liability like every company in the US does. They can screw up and you have no rights. It included nerve damage, results varying, scarring, the usual. It did not protect him from personal injury.

Soooo, now I get called back to meet Dr. ALexander for the first time in his office in the back of the place. We are running 35 minutes late at this point. It was awkward to say the least. I don't know if he was embarrassed for being late or just didn't even know who was scheduled. He asked me, ok what are we doing for you today. I was thinking, Dr. Alexander do you even know my name, or look at the pictures I sent for the consultation? Is this a barber shop? am I really on your schedule? do you have a schedule?

I broke many important surgery rules. I was told NEVER schedule anything on a monday, doctors are human and party and travel on the weekends and sometimes come in unprepared on Mondays, this was true of this Monday. This advise was given to me by a wife of a doctor. Dr. Alexander had no clue who I was or even planned for my procedure, it was obvious.

I had to remind him of everything we discussed and he started to draw the lines for the hairline and the crown. We had a subtle disagreement on the placement of the hairline especially on the left side. and after a compromise we finally agreed to lower the hairline and fill in the crown.

Ok, crown was the top priority and anything left was going into the hairline to lower it. Hairline was not a priority, I was fine with my hairline even though it was receding a little.

Finally I started to become a little relaxed because with all the BS to this point behind me, I was really looking past it all realizing that the result is all that matters and I was hoping looking at the pre-op lines that things may turnout for the best in the end.

next will be the trip to the room next door for the procedure......

[Mr. 4000]

Dr. Alexander feel free to join in at anytime, I have nothing to hide.

I didn't take the deal you offered me so I could tell this story, I refuse to be bought, and the money you offered me and the gag order drafted by your lawyer was not going to fix anything for me. Thats why I left it on the table. That money didn't mean a damn thing to me. Money isn't going to fix my neck or scalp.

Hats off to you for getting my blog kicked off that fraud site, Taking the Plunge really likes you. I don't know why after you screwed up his first procedure. You are lucky he took your deal and it worked out for you that he started working for that site. Good move Doc.

I wonder how many people you buy off to silence the patients you screw up.

I didn't sign the papers and I didn't take the money like you thought I would.

I will type that agreement in this thread as well, in the end.

[topcat]

Mr. 4000 it’s amazing how even when the red flags are staring us right in the face we tend to rationalize in our own mind and dismiss them. Tell your story the way you want to tell it and don’t be dissuaded by others that feel the need to comment on your style. They can simply pass on reading your thread if it’s such a big deal for them. But the fact that they don’t pass up your thread but feel the need to make a negative comment on the style is a red flag that forum readers need to pay attention to when reading posts.

[Havok]

Mr. 4000 it’s amazing how even when the red flags are staring us right in the face we tend to rationalize in our own mind and dismiss them. Tell your story the way you want to tell it and don’t be dissuaded by others that feel the need to comment on your style. They can simply pass on reading your thread if it’s such a big deal for them. But the fact that they don’t pass up your thread but feel the need to make a negative comment on the style is a red flag that forum readers need to pay attention to when reading posts.

agree 100%. this is permanent scar that you have to live with for the rest of your life and no amount of money can undo whatever damage resulted from HT procedure so this is BIG DEAL. tell it like how it is in whatever method you feel it's necessary. why do we have to settle for anything less than perfect?? ESP when going under the knife? if anything we need more awareness of HT f*k ups.

[Follicle Death Row]

agree 100%. this is permanent scar that you have to live with for the rest of your life and no amount of money can undo whatever damage resulted from HT procedure so this is BIG DEAL. tell it like how it is in whatever method you feel it's necessary. why do we have to settle for anything less than perfect?? ESP when going under the knife? if anything we need more awareness of HT f*k ups.

Couldn't have said it better. My sentiments exactly. I really can't wait until there's a better alternative such as Replicel where people won't run out of hair and the whole process is minimally invasive.

It's good to see that your silence can't be bought.

[Delphi]

Mr. 4000 it’s amazing how even when the red flags are staring us right in the face we tend to rationalize in our own mind and dismiss them. Tell your story the way you want to tell it and don’t be dissuaded by others that feel the need to comment on your style. They can simply pass on reading your thread if it’s such a big deal for them. But the fact that they don’t pass up your thread but feel the need to make a negative comment on the style is a red flag that forum readers need to pay attention to when reading posts.

Topcat, with all due respect I have the same right to post my thoughts as you or Mr. 4000. Red flag about what, me being honest? I think Mr. 4000 has dragged this out long enough, I just want to get to the meat of his story, what’s wrong with saying that? If I didn’t think his story had merit, I wouldn't comment on it at all, but you seem to think that saying what’s on my mind is some sort of a red flag. I still don't understand what the red flag could be, but man are you paranoid!

[Ahairdown]

Thread is useless without pics. All hearsay.

[Delphi]

Thread is useless without pics. All hearsay.

I'm glad I didn't bring this up. Topcat might see it as another red flag

But seriously, you're right Ahairdown, pics would help.

[VictimOfDHT]

Thread is useless without pics. All hearsay.

This isn't about pics. A lot of guys here don't post pics, but that doesn't make them liars.
Say something good or shut the hell up. No one's forcing you to read or believe anything.

[VictimOfDHT]

It is interesting that Dr. Fawzi's treatment worked with remarkable results while as far as I know, Aderans's treatment really hasn't worked well at all. I wish Aderans would try and tap into the process that she's doing. Also, I wish that Ms. Fawzi's treatment would be available abroad. It's already done wonders for others (with no complications) and I think many people such as myself would jump at the chance to try it.

That link doesn't take anywhere. If it's true that doctor is doing HM -of some kind- in Egypt I'll be there tomorrow. But is she doing it for kids only? I would go to Egypt to find out.

[ejj]

its hard to remember all the details and put it all in writing all at once , I can understand that all too well , probably is best to break it down and post as , before , during, and after like you have done , it makes it easier to get it all down accuratly which is important to all ,
I would assume the pictures would be coming later in the `after` segment ,along with what I think your refering to as a ` General Release` ( gag order ) interesting that people know about this side of the industry ... anyway I wish you all the best on getting sorted

all the best
ejj

[Follicle Death Row]

That link doesn't take anywhere. If it's true that doctor is doing HM -of some kind- in Egypt I'll be there tomorrow. But is she doing it for kids only? I would go to Egypt to find out.

She's only done it on kids as far as I'm aware. I don't know anymore than that. Seems crazy that such a procedure was done in 2009 I think and the companies are still working away on it.

[DepressedByHairLoss]

That link doesn't take anywhere. If it's true that doctor is doing HM -of some kind- in Egypt I'll be there tomorrow. But is she doing it for kids only? I would go to Egypt to find out.

I just clicked on the link and it worked for me. If it doesn't work for you, go to google and search for 'marwa fawzi stem-cell-news'. And scroll down a bit, for some reason, there is blank space at the beginning of the page. Yeah, apparently her procedure really worked on children, regrowing almost a full head of hair in some of them. This article was from 2009 and it stated that she would be trying this procedure in male pattern baldness. Yeah, I'd be over there in a second too. Well, at least it's a breath of fresh air to see some one working to benefit humans, rather than a scientist explaining why mice and rabbits need frequent hair regeneration to survive in the wild.