Dealing with propecia's side effects

[auglen]

Buddy, you have pretzel logic at best. Don't kid your self into thinking you understand all the mechanisms and effects of a drug like Propecia. As is coming to light, 90% of the medical community doesn't even understand what is happening completely.. so you sure as hell do not. You are also making mass generalizations about peoples' genetics purely based on physical appearance. Again, just because someone is relatively hirsute does not mean they are any more likely to go bald than someone with no body hair. The balding factor is determined purely by genetics, not by wives tales. There are lots of hairy men out there who never lose a hair.. go look at some Italians, Turks, Iranians, or East Indians.

As I already said sensitivity of hair to DHT varies, but if we have 2 people of the same genotype then the more hairy one is more likely to loose hair (if we suppose that those people have the same sensitivity to DHT). It's no wives tale and a very simple mechanism.
So sure, you've got people that can be super hairy and not loose a single strand, their hair is simply not sensitive to DHT (or the DHT doesn't reach it, we don't really understand how that works yet). But if we compare people that are very close genetically then there's nothing outrageous about believing that the hairy ones are more likely to loose hair (actually the ones that WILL get hairy, because if they're already hairy and got a full head then it's probably an indication that the DHT is not hurting their hair).

Of course hair loss is determined by genetics, but it's not that a certain gene determines you will loose this or that amount. It's genes that determine your hair's sensitivity to DHT and the amount you produce (or more accurately the fraction of T that is being converted to DHT).

And we also have to remember that in some people facial/body hair does not react to DHT too much either. So you could have somebody producing a lot of DHT, getting hair loss and yet not seeing too much facial hair (many asians).

Thus I'm very very sorry if it sounded like I meant that facial hair equals hair loss. Don't want anybody to go crazy about having that hair :-)
But well if everybody in your family had little facial hair and full heads of hair and you was the only one that was developing much more facial hair then I think it's a genuine reason to be concerned.

And don't take it so seriously, we're having those discussions here to give each other some food for thought, nobody is claiming to have the ultimate answer.

[abusername]

Gunna have to agree with skipstah on this one, i glanced over what you said and it was rubbish but i do appreciate your opinion!

But thanks skipstah it's interesting to know that you experienced the same type of thing i did and i absolutely agree that this shit would have only been down-hill if i kept with it.

[auglen]

Appreciation taken, at least makes it less rubbishy ;-)