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  • doke
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1475

    there seems to be some success with the ru58841 and its one thing i really always wanted to try its just the cost and having to mix it yourself.

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    • kaandereli
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 57

      i have no doubt that sexuality is the prime cause of MPB.Although there is no clear direction between them due to the involvement of other factors like stress , malnutrition, etc. , the effect of sexuality is undeniable.

      i also agree with the first thread in porn's indirect precipitation of hair loss.People who watch porn frequently not only loses zinc due to ejaculation but they frequently make their mind busy with fantasies that constantly pumps androgen to body.
      i want to give you the example of stephen hawking.as you know he has no control over his body since 21.Check out his photos from web and notice that he has a full head of hair.
      you can give the example of porn stars but show me a guy in his 60s who didn't have a receding hair line.
      although there is no 100% percent relationship btw MPB-sex , we can't deny that it is less than 50%.

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      • clandestine
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2005

        *Sigh*. Alright, here it is again.

        Originally posted by VulcanLogic
        OK I have read quite a bit of your material and certainly enough to get the gist of your proposition. You are quite correct on one point androgenic alopecia should not be considered a 'desease' nor should it be considered a disease.

        As to the rest of your material I would say this is a perfect example of dicto simpliciter (look it up) and a healthy infusion of misinformation.

        Your initial preamble (ramblings) are full of inaccuracies, here are a few examples to correct you.

        * Not all androgenic alopecia (AA) starts at the temples or crown.

        * Not all AA progresses to a full crown (bald head) loss.

        * Contrary to 'your' belief science actually knows only a small fraction of the complex mechanism that results in AA.

        * We don't know for certain that DHT is the main cause of hair loss, we do know that it appears that DHT is part of the mechanism involved. However even if DHT is integral it could for example be more to do with receptor site rather than DHT.

        * We don't know if DHT is excessive in both the scalp and the blood stream in the majority of cases of AA and in fact there is no hard evidence to draw a cause and effect relationship as DHT levels can be identical in those with and those without AA, in fact it could be that the enzyme 5α-reductase is the culprit rather than DHT.

        * Other mammals do have plenty of incidences of AA, notably the male Tsavo lions, dogs, macaques, and even our closest primate species the chimpanzee.

        * Both the big cats, domesticated cats and host of other species will suffer from alopecia and a host of other health issues related to a nutrient deficient diet.

        * We do not know that AA is caused by a hormonal 'in balance' (imbalance) in fact there is very little to support that those with men with AA have significantly different hormonal levels to those without AA.

        * Some women do suffer with AA this appears to occur as oestrogen levels decline with age which has lead to the hypothesis that oestrogen has a protective role and as it declines women hair follicles are exposed to DHT leading to AA in a similar way to men. Though I stress this is unproven.

        * Logically women and men are not exposed to the same gene pool, as a result of the 'XY' chromosomes vs 'XX', hence the reason we have sex linked diseases.

        * There is absolutely no evidence that the prostate is the 'single cause for hair loss' nor have I seen any credible evidence to make such an assumption, the prostate is however regulated by DHT which is synthesized in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal glands by the enzyme 5α-reductase.

        * There is no credible evidence to suggest that ejaculation has anything other than a transitory effect on DHT, in fact if we take your own results on face value your DHT level actually fell below the pre ejaculation level a short time after. And once again I stress that there is no credible evidence that those with AA have significantly different serum DHT levels to those without it.

        * There is evidence of a potential increase in both benign prostatic hyperplasia and cancer of the prostate in those with low levels of sexual activity (ejaculation), you may like to think of this as clearing the pipes if you like.

        Overwhelmingly the evidence is that AA is a genetically determined outcome, we can see evidence of this all around us in our groups of family and friends. The mere fact that such a high percentage of men will experience AA is sufficient to conclude that it is a natural process that most will experience to a greater or lesser degree.

        Whilst we all may like to delay the loss of a youthful appearance lets not lose perspective and engage in silly and potentially unhealthy self abuse.
        Please try to refrain from posting in this thread; it only serves to spread misinformation.

        /thread.

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        • Morbo
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 263

          Originally posted by kaandereli
          i have no doubt that sexuality is the prime cause of MPB... the effect of sexuality is undeniable... i want to give you the example of stephen hawking.as you know he has no control over his body since 21.Check out his photos from web and notice that he has a full head of hair...
          Just brilliant. Comical geniosity, weren't for that fact that I know you're 100 % serious about it.

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          • doke
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1475

            not the sex thing again please am i going mad help.

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            • doke
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1475

              come back tracy c all is forgiven

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              • gmonasco
                Inactive
                • Apr 2010
                • 883

                Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                Why do most Porn stars have a full head of hair? I dont get it.
                Perhaps because it's a myth that male porn actors uniformly engage in vastly greater quantities of sex than the average young male.

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                • clandestine
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2005

                  Hm, crazy idea: perhaps we should stop posting in this thread, as the basis of ResearchNeverFail's findings already been debunked, and in doing so we only serve to further propagate the spread of misinformation for newer members to find? Crazy, crazy, I know. Could work though? Maybe?

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                  • doke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1475

                    sex makes you go blind or is it that right hand gesture hahaha

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                    • beatinghairloss
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 213

                      Originally posted by doke
                      sex makes you go blind or is it that right hand gesture hahaha
                      :<~~~~~~~~~~~

                      Thats me blowing the cob webs off this thread....Update to any readers I have compiled about 10 people using the reduced ejaculation method for years and haulting hairloss completely but not seeing any new regrowth. Has anybody using also the scalp exercises and laxity seen any improvement?

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                      • johnswager
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 2

                        thanks dude

                        ppl need to see this. there is a connection. Not talking about sex. I'm taking about stop the excessive masturbation/eyaculation, the right amount of zinc. and heathly diet.. this is the cure. Rogaine can help but not for long.

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                        • Jedgreen
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 21

                          Nothing is a cure for everyone.
                          But, by removing each and every things that could add problems to your hair, maybe you can do something.
                          We think that we can't beat genetic because MPB is present in our family and "that's the way it is, end of the story" but to me the thing to focus on is also the lifestyle of those family members. Were they eating healthy? Did they smoke? etc... and do YOU have the same lifestyle?
                          If yes, then your genetic will probably react the same, but I think that breaking the chain of bad habits can do something in certain cases. The human body is meant to react to its environment. If your genetic is programed to support only a certain amount of "agression" (being DHT, pollution, junk food, lack of sleep, poor hydration, etc...) then you need to wonder "what is the amount that I can tolerate?", "I am way above that level?" (in this case minox, fin, etc is your only hope), or "Am I just above it?"...
                          In the first case you're ****ed even if you live the most healthy life... but in the second maybe you could do something that you're not doing because "it's-genetic-in-your-family". And yes, it IS genetic but if you have the same kind of lifestyle than him, then maybe there is something to try before going the minox and fin route...

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                          • burtandernie
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1568

                            All of the try diet, exercise, sleep, cleaner air, shower filters... are basically the equivalent of saying you have no idea what causes MPB at all. I mean your not even saying anything really. Yes try to be more perfect in all aspects of your life and maybe your hair will regrow. Thanks for the tip. That seems to work out well for the majority of balding men out there as if all men follow some generic routine like smoking or whatever. Usually blanket over simplified statements about large groups of people are very wrong.
                            The best advice is lower your androgens, and keep them low. Take propecia and whatever AAs you can or accept MPB. Pretty simple really because nothing else works

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                            • Parker317
                              Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 67

                              So does anyone have any updates on this post? Has anyone had success with his recommendations?

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                              • Cabeceira
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 2

                                I don't think so.. totally dis agree

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