Replicel

[Maradona]

not my point. If it's true that HSC results are temporary and they're not actually reversing MPB then they're wasting time and money. Temporary COSMETIC improvements don't need to go through those FDA phases I don't know why they're doing that then.
You want temporary hair? There you go:

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/peptides-growth-factors/84789-peptides-hair-regrowth.html

why wait for Histogen then?

you gone crazy.

[2020]

you gone crazy.

not really I'm just saying if Histogen is going for a COSMETIC procedure rather than something MEDICAL(from the regenerative category) then they're wasting time because first, they don't have to go through FDA for that and second, we already have a bunch of peptides that regrow hair.

I hope I'm wrong and I hope that Histogen is much better than I imagine it to be

[gmonasco]

not really I'm just saying if Histogen is going for a COSMETIC procedure rather than something MEDICAL(from the regenerative category) then they're wasting time because first, they don't have to go through FDA for that

The criteria used for determining what constitutes a drug (from the standpoint of the FDA) has nothing to do with whether the effects are permanent. That isn't the factor that distinguishes drugs from cosmetics.

[bananana]

Cmon guys, stop with speculations, you actually know NOTHING whats going on at their labs or what the results will be.

This is just hearsay talk. Lets wait for the official results/interview.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Cmon guys, stop with speculations, you actually know NOTHING whats going on at their labs or what the results will be.

This is just hearsay talk. Lets wait for the official results/interview.

I think 2020 shouldnt get HSC when it comes out.

[Maradona]

I think 2020 shouldnt get HSC when it comes out.

I don't know what's happened to 2020. He's gone all crazy recently.
He used to bring up very good info on mechanisms of baldness and whatnot. Now he's just downtalking histogen.

HSC it's better than we all thought to be. The question is if it'll work on everyone !

[UK_]

2020 if baldness is your main concern with becoming a steroid pumped superman then surely you should be on other forums that are all awaiting cures for the dozen other side effects associated with steroid use, namely liver tumours and heart attacks.

[UK_]

Talking about Histogen... when is Spencer going to have another interview with Gail? It's been over 2 years...

[UK_]

Do you think Spencer could ask one of the researchers from one of the major companies their opinion on combining solutions from different companies in a separate clinical trial?

Lets say Histogen combine solutions with Replicel and conduct a phase I trial in say 20 patients?... the research for both solutions is there, we have mountains of it from over 30 years.

Would this be possible? I know they are competitors but perhaps merging they could actually come up with a treatment better than every other company in trials today, it would also work wonders for them financially.

[2020]

I don't know what's happened to 2020. He's gone all crazy recently.
He used to bring up very good info on mechanisms of baldness and whatnot. Now he's just downtalking histogen.

not crazy. just the more I research, the more disappointed I become in those future treatments...

HSC it's better than we all thought to be. The question is if it'll work on everyone !

if it works the way I described in previous posts then no. Bald spots will fail to respond to "growth factors" just like they fail to respond to your body's own growth factors due to upregulated COX-2 enzyme.

Is it a coincidence that strong anti-inflammatories, botox, and thymosin grow hair like crazy?

[UK_]

2020 why so depressed? Team Tokyo are coming to the rescue

http://www.astrogle.com/discus/viewthread.php?tid=1758

[UK_]

if it works the way I described in previous posts then no. Bald spots will fail to respond to "growth factors" just like they fail to respond to your body's own growth factors due to upregulated COX-2 enzyme.

Is it a coincidence that strong anti-inflammatories, botox, and thymosin grow hair like crazy?

You have been reading far too many Iron_Man posts.

2 years ago he said wnt ligands would have no impact on hair growth but he was talking rubbish - over that time Histogen have proved him wrong and wnt proteins have also reversed grey hair.

A regular NSAID can be used as a COX-2 inhibitor, you can try celecoxib (Celebrex), valdecoxib (Bextra), parecoxib (Dynastat), lumiracoxib - to see if it brings you back to NW1 but I doubt it will.

(Although I believe some were taken off the market because Merck fabricated some of the clinical trials' data surrounding the analgesic effects of the drugs - leading many to encounter fatal cardiovascular complications, some of the products were taken off the market.

[yeahyeahyeah]

not crazy. just the more I research, the more disappointed I become in those future treatments...



if it works the way I described in previous posts then no. Bald spots will fail to respond to "growth factors" just like they fail to respond to your body's own growth factors due to upregulated COX-2 enzyme.

Is it a coincidence that strong anti-inflammatories, botox, and thymosin grow hair like crazy?

Maybe you should leave this to the professionals.

Your research at best is novice.

[2020]

2020 why so depressed? Team Tokyo are coming to the rescue

http://www.astrogle.com/discus/viewthread.php?tid=1758

"Rejuvenate and repair hair follicle".... sighs... the follicle is fine. Leave follicles alone

You have been reading far too many Iron_Man posts.

2 years ago he said wnt ligands would have no impact on hair growth but he was talking rubbish - over that time Histogen have proved him wrong and wnt proteins have also reversed grey hair.

right but they didn't make any injections into bald spots where inflammation is upregulated the most.
Also another question: how long will these results last? What makes them think that your body will take over once these growth factors "wear off"?

[UK_]

Lol they have lasted past the two year mark - how do you know that the results have declined? Maybe Gail Naughton will come on the show and say "yes the first patients are still experiencing stable hair growth" - what will you say then?

And plz name me another treatment that you use ONCE and then experience hair growth for 2 years?

Can you and Iron_Man please find me a COX-2 inhibitor that can do that?

I doubt it.

Regarding your comments about "the HSC not used in bald spots" - in all honesty, some of the pictures at baseline, the hair looked pretty shit to me - you could see copious amounts of vellus hair that looked like they had endured years of being raped by DHT - and all of a sudden 6 months later they were glowing terminal hairs and had new hairs surrounding them. I call that a win.