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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1410

    #76
    Originally posted by Losing_It
    Its is interesting that Replicel notes only Phase 1 and 2 trials on their Website. Does this mean that if successful they could launch after Phase 2?

    it means we still haven't seen one actual human result... just pixar movies of magic chemicals that float around under your scalp and find sleeping hair follicles

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    • Jundam
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 110

      #77
      Originally posted by MrRyan
      What i don't understand is why this has taken so long for it to get to the human trials stage this was found to be safe and effective years ago in mice, so why only now are human trials being done ? I'm not sure if it was an issue of funding, know how, or my worst fear just not worth the hassle for them if someone could explain i would be grateful.

      If i could choose out of all the current trials going on right now which one i would want to succeed it would be this one as is seems very simple and non invasive, but of course efficacy hasn't even been shown in the trial data as of yet so i don't want to get too far ahead of myself. And i'm at the stage now where i just need to know if any of these potential treatments will work and we will know pretty soon within around 6 - 8 months, if it turns out that they don't work i'm just going to accept the fact that i need to buzz my head down and get on with life the best i can, but i will admit this is destroying my confidence and i have dealt with a lot of things in my life and got through them, this however i'm finding very very hard to deal with.
      It's hard to know since they've released no statement regarding it but if I were to make a guess I'd say that their problem was not in finding out how to activate the hair follicles but in finding out how to reach the hair follicles to activate them, and being able to do so consistently and safely. It would make sense if the method of delivery was the problem as once they had solved that problem they could begin clinical trials to prove its potency and then move onto commercial release.

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      • PinotQ
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 188

        #78
        There are many reasons why I believe it has taken a long time to get to the clinical trial stage. One reason is that it takes time to raise the necessary funding. Another reason is that it is a lot more complicated than it appears to set up and execute a clinical trial. If you remember, Replicel was over a year late in beginning it's clinical trial after it had raised the necessary funding. If the trial is not set up correctly with the proper protcols and safeguards, the trial results may be useless in the eyes of the regulatory body that is charged with reviewing them. It seems that almost all of the players in this game have had delays in setting up & starting their clinical trials. But I believe the major reason that it has taken so long is that Replicel had to perfect a method of multiplying the cells taken from the punch biopsy into millions of cells for reinjection. If you have read any of the research in this area, one of the problems that had to be overcome was that after a certain number of passes, the cells start to loose their potency and take on an irregular shape. So I think the trick here is turning 1 DSC cell into many DSC cells such that they retain all of their characteristics and potency. Based on everything I have read, I believe Replicel has indentified the correct cell. It remains to be seen how effective their method of replicating these cells will be. One key point that I find highly suggestive of the confidence they have in their possibility of success is that they raised their funding and seemingly came from nowhere, after Aderans was already well into Phase II of their trials.

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        • MrRyan
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 34

          #79
          Please forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do the cells know what to do once they are injected is it simply that a cell just does what it does, or does it need other signals from the body to do their job like chemical signals or such like. If so how do they get around this do they use other factors in the injection, i'm sorry if this question sounds stupid, but i'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to human biology.

          And one other question i can not for the life of me find one straight answer to is, do the hair follicles die or are they just dormant i'm hoping it's the latter as i'm sure many of you do, i ask this because i think this is massively important for things like Replicel and Histogen in regards to their efficacy.

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2744

            #80
            Originally posted by MrRyan
            Please forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do the cells know what to do once they are injected is it simply that a cell just does what it does, or does it need other signals from the body to do their job like chemical signals or such like. If so how do they get around this do they use other factors in the injection, i'm sorry if this question sounds stupid, but i'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to human biology.

            And one other question i can not for the life of me find one straight answer to is, do the hair follicles die or are they just dormant i'm hoping it's the latter as i'm sure many of you do, i ask this because i think this is massively important for things like Replicel and Histogen in regards to their efficacy.
            Q1 = Because cells are encoded with DNA -

            Q2 = Yes, as opposed to scarring alopecia, male pattern hair loss does not destroy the stem cells needed to regenerate the hair follicle, hairs still exist but they are miniaturised even on NW 7 scalps -

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            • krewel
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 188

              #81
              Besides, the chief of their team is German. When it comes to technology and science, I absolutley trust those guys.
              Well, lets hope and cross fingers. In some months we'll know more. Until then, I'll keep myself busy with thinking about Christmas hahahahaha.

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              • PinotQ
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 188

                #82
                To add to what UK said, you might find it interesting to read Replicel's patent. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2006/0088505.html The patent says that Replicel has tried this process with several different stem cell types: The DSC, the DS (dermal sheath cells) and the dermal papillae (what adreans is using). They have found that the DSC is the only stem cell capable of generating all of the relevant parts of the follicle. Their claim is that the DSC is in fact DNA coded to to produce everything necessary to produce new hairs and rejuvenate damaged follicles.

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                • CVAZBAR
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 444

                  #83
                  REPLICEL contacted Spencer!!!!! Interview coming real soon! Finally

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                  • CVAZBAR
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 444

                    #84
                    Questions?

                    I suggest for people to post questions to ask the Replicel representative. Spencer will most likely check in and choose some questions from here.

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                    • Curlybill99
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 12

                      #85
                      do you know when the interview is going to be?

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                      • stillinHS1994
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 72

                        #86
                        Originally posted by CVAZBAR
                        REPLICEL contacted Spencer!!!!! Interview coming real soon! Finally
                        Booyah! Finally some news or updates or whatever....better start thinking of questions

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                        • CVAZBAR
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 444

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Curlybill99
                          do you know when the interview is going to be?
                          I don't know the exact day but Spencer said it will probably happen within this week or maybe on Sunday! It's safe to say it will happen soon though, unless something sudden prevents it.

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                          • Losing_It
                            Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 89

                            #88
                            The race is on it seems. Interestingly, Replicel published their paper in 2003 about being able to grow hair on mouse ears and foot pads. Lets hope whoever is successful won't get sued for patent infringements. All this propriety liquid stuff is making me worried. Don't we just hate patents.

                            Anyways, on an unrelated note, I see Kevin Bacon's middle name is Norwood. At least hes got good hair.

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                            • Dutch_Dude
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 238

                              #89
                              Everything is looking good and we are nearing 2012!

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                              • BoSox
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 708

                                #90
                                I'm sure the most frequent question will be when will this be available. All I care is about efficiancy... ill wait 5 more years if I have to if I knew what was at the finish line <3

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