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    Default Why my doctor won't use ACell

    A couple weeks ago I contacted a local hair transplant doctor who was recommended to me by a couple of good friends (I'll keep names out of it because that's not relevant and I don't want to attack anyone, I just want your opinions). I asked the doctor if he was using Acell or if he was going to in the near future. His response what 'no' because the science wasn't there yet.

    I've done as much research as possible, I'm not jumping on the Acell hype-wagon, but haven't Dr. Cooley and Dr. Hitzig shown that the science is there through their research? This isn't snake oil. Yes, there is much to learn still, but how can everything there is to know be learned quickly if only a couple of doctors are even willing to try it?

    I'm all for hair transplant doctors being responsible. In fact, i wouldn't want an irresponsible doctor anywhere near my scalp. But isn't it also their responsibility to offer their clients a medicine which could have profound effects on the future of the industry? Even if it's only through a year of controlled clinical trials on select patients. Try it. Experiment. But give the patient all the facts before doing so and let them decide. Don't just brush it off.

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    Oh name your Doc please.

    Acell imho should be the standard to use throughout "ordinary" transplants. The "SCIENCE" behind Acell is actually old news and well known if some docs would have read the ahem papers from the last decade

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    Cost??? No real controlled studies in its use for hair loss/HT's???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDawkins View Post
    Oh name your Doc please.

    Acell imho should be the standard to use throughout "ordinary" transplants. The "SCIENCE" behind Acell is actually old news and well known if some docs would have read the ahem papers from the last decade
    I understand you wanna know the name of the doc, but I'd rather not say for 2 reasons:

    1.) I dont want to start a witch hunt on a single person. I intended my post to be a place people might discuss this issue in general because it is bigger than one doctor. It effects the entire industry.

    2.) I wanna remain anonymous in case i ever get the operation with him. Same reason you don't tell the waiter they suck for fear of getting a loogie in your burger :-P

    I won't mind if some else started a thread in which people could start a directory of doctors experimenting with Acell (maybe you could do it!). If everyone here called or emailed 5 or so doctors in their area, we could collectively get a great list going in a relatively short period of time! Let's use the power of the internet, people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK_ View Post
    Cost??? No real controlled studies in its use for hair loss/HT's???
    Those are good concerns. I guess I assumed costs would be paid off by the consumer, though the initial investment might be substantial (how much does one of those PRP machines cost?). And if the doctor doesn't believe in the science, is it ethical to invest in it and pass off that cost to their clients?

    I'm all for a controlled, FDA-approved study. Financially speaking, it would be wise for Acell as a company to do this because if Hitzig's/Cooley's results can be "officially" duplicated, more doctors might jump on board and Acell would BANK. I'm gonna assume/hope they're already doing this.

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    Ok then, lets stop all experimenting and tick with traditional stuff. I mean no one here needs Evolutions in the hair restoration field anyways.

    I give Histogen etc a call to stop their stuff immediately because we need studies RIGHT now but on the other hand the people who want studies dont want them..... Paradox

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    I should have stated no real "completed" controlled studies yet lol

    Bernstein clinic is currently beginning a phase I into plucking hair w/ Acell/PRP.

    Has anyone noticed how quick cats recover from wounds? They're itching away a few days later even from bad wounds, they must have some powerful ECM or something.

    I dont understand the lack of progress and urgency in this sector anyway, economically it just does not make sense, just look at how successful products like Propecia/Minox have been, even Alpecin, the caffeine shampoo literally exploded across Europe, millions of people are buying this stuff, dont people wanna make money? lol.

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    Thats simple to answer : Because we hairloss sufferer dont DEMAND it.

    Till today there are still guys who went to dubios clinics for a 1 Dollar per Graft micromotor FUE or other people who go willingly to a FUT strip party to get things DONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NTMANNN View Post
    Those are good concerns. I guess I assumed costs would be paid off by the consumer, though the initial investment might be substantial (how much does one of those PRP machines cost?). And if the doctor doesn't believe in the science, is it ethical to invest in it and pass off that cost to their clients?

    I'm all for a controlled, FDA-approved study. Financially speaking, it would be wise for Acell as a company to do this because if Hitzig's/Cooley's results can be "officially" duplicated, more doctors might jump on board and Acell would BANK. I'm gonna assume/hope they're already doing this.
    I heard Gho did a HM procedure on Wesley Sneijder - whether this is true or not I cannot say, but his HT looks great, the thing is if this is TRUE HM why isnt it in the press/mainstream media? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardDawkins View Post
    Thats simple to answer : Because we hairloss sufferer dont DEMAND it.

    Till today there are still guys who went to dubios clinics for a 1 Dollar per Graft micromotor FUE or other people who go willingly to a FUT strip party to get things DONE.
    If a shampoo containing something as common and simple as caffeine can produce such an uproar in the "hair cosmetic market" then just imagine what something that is even slightly better than minox could do - it just boggles the mind really - I think there may be something lacking in this industry, some dynamic other industries have a' plenty - you dont see the same competitive drive between smaller fragmented companies as you do in mainstream biotech - which is experiencing an explosion in output because of such conditions.

    Biotech progress seems to be feeding on itself and getting faster year on year, the same cannot be said for treatments in this industry, which is why we keep hearing the same old "another 5 years, another 5 years", it could be a lack of demand , but I doubt it - everyone knows with the right reach and the right product a hair loss cure would sell as fast as a cure for any of the major diseases, it's the amount of companies working on something, there is no "race to the finish line". The reason I say this is that even with Dr Cooley et al coming forward and stating that they HAVE literally taken a plucked hair and grown/regrown in recipient + donor... only a handful of doctors, researchers and investors have come forward to research it and improve on the technique - why? The last mainstream publication in terms of progress was Follicas "stem cells in bald scalps" thats it - even then - still silence from within the industry.

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