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  • Thinning@30
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 316

    Bioregenerative Sciences

    I'm not sure what to make of this:



    Apparently Bioregenerative Sciences, a San Diego, CA based company is launching a new topical hair growth product that uses stem cells. The article claims the product has shown efficacy in clinical trials, but their website has no testimonials or before and after pictures. Also, it looks like the product is intended for women, but the article mentions it works on both men and women. A separate product for men will be launched in 3Q 2011.

    This one seemed to come out of nowhere. Has anyone heard anything about this?
  • ALLISWELL
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 52

    #2
    Lol...now every company is thinking of fooling people and making big bucks providing a fake hair loss cure!!

    Well i still keep my fingers crossed! hope this one or any other legit product comes out this year!!

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    • Flowers
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 254

      #3
      Yeah just like how every scam company now says they block DHT. I'd be cautious

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      • Thinning@30
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 316

        #4
        I'm not ready to denounce this one as a scam. I'm not saying its legit either, but who knows? The company's principals seem to have solid scientific credentials, and the article mentions clinical trials (presumably in the US?). Also, the company sells other products, and they don't seem to be set up like the typical hair loss scams.

        On the other hand, there really isn't much information, and the hair growth product, HSI has a strikingly similar name to the one under development by Histogen.

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        • HairHell
          Junior Member
          • May 2011
          • 3

          #5
          I recently sent an email to this company, they responded today. Please see below and what they attached for me. Thanks

          Is there any more information about this product? Trials/results?

          Thanks!


          Chris,

          Sorry for the late reply. My supervisor was going to supply me with specifics regarding clinic trials plus some before and after pictures but instead this information will be posted online within the week. Please keep checking our website as we are constantly updating out pages with more products and product information.

          HSC for women is topical. It is an aqueous formulation and will dry just as if you placed water on your scalp. You do not rinse off; just apply and let dry and style your hair any way you want including rewetting it. We do not recommend using a hair dryer AFTER application for extended times. A treatment is 2 x 15 ml bottles and should last about six to eight weeks. This is a complete treatment that will show initial results. Treatment will need to be continued thereafter.

          Our current product is formulated for women. By late May or early June we will have sizes and pricing available online for our product specifically designed for men. The women's formula is safe for men, but we are still in the final stages of testing the men's product.

          In the meanwhile I've supplied some attachments for your review. If you have any further questions, please contact my email or phone.

          Thank you,
          Cheryl

          Cheryl Ward, CPhT, RMA

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2691

            #6
            has anyone tried this yet? Is it a scam? looks like a bottle of sophisticated snake oil hair tonic bald-be-gone if u ask me.

            I saw some rubbish like this coming out of an Austrian lab, claimed they used WNT10 proteins to stimulate the natural healing process, also claimed clinical trials... all a load of rubbish if you ask me, Histogen are a legit company that are genuinely creating a bio-engineerd solution to hair loss, these scammers are just leeching off their every word/process n style.

            Thinning@30 - u said it best on a different thread - about the ECM/Matrix/ WNT/stem cell lingo being in the collective conscious of the balding community, we've all upgraded to adopt this sophisticated language n understanding of the biology behind hair loss, and these scammers merely play into that psychology, a lot of people will fall for this thinking it is an early Histogen release.

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            • Thinning@30
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 316

              #7
              From the Bioregenerative Sciences website. The italics are mine:

              For the millions of men and women who struggle with their hair loss, the results of our HSC trial indicate the potential for a highly effective treatment option that stimulates growth of new hairs along with increasing the thickness of existing hairs, doing so with increased natural pigmentation of the hair.
              The phrase "indicate the potential" suggests to me that this product is something hypothetical that hasn't yet demonstrated efficacy in vivo. I am eagerly awaiting the promised pictures and the details of the trial that is mentioned in Hairhell's email. Also, we have to bear in mind that there are clinical trials to demonstrate safety and then there are clinical trials to demonstrate efficacy. Remember the Hairmax Lasercomb? The Hairmax Lasercomb people made all sorts of claims about their product being FDA-approved, but the FDA approval was for safety not efficacy.

              On the Bioregenerative Sciences website a single bottle is $150 USD, and Hairhell's email seems to indicate that a treatment is two 15 ml bottles and this will show initial results. 15 ml is not much, so it looks like this would be something that is applied once every few weeks rather than daily like minoxidil. The website's return policy states that unused portions of the product must be returned within 30 days of original invoice date--not sure if 30 days would be enough time to see results.

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              • Flowers
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 254

                #8
                Also if you wanted to run a briefly profitable scam like most of the hair loss scams would you really only release a product for women first?

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                • johnnyboots
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 143

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Flowers
                  Also if you wanted to run a briefly profitable scam like most of the hair loss scams would you really only release a product for women first?
                  and after one treatment{one bottle}they claim you will see some results.so if you take a run at it it will only cost you 150.

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                  • VictimOfDHT
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 747

                    #10
                    we'll see if it works for women first. By the 3rd quarter of '11 we should know if it's just another scam, which most likely it is.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #11
                      Originally posted by johnnyboots
                      and after one treatment{one bottle}they claim you will see some results.so if you take a run at it it will only cost you 150.
                      They said that with CyGenX...'that one $300 treatment would be enough to see results', lol - id atleast see what people are saying on the forums aswel before purchasing. But I agree it is worth the shot - this would be my first "scam" if I were to try it and fail - the thing that gets me... is that I try and think of what I would do if I owned this product and it was a legitimate product geting results... now... if I really had the cure or even, a better treatment, it would make sense to move heaven n' earth to prove statistically in a controlled study that it works, even if it took longer the economic benefits of having it PROVEN black and white and PATENTED are just ridiculous for the disease this treatment proposes to treat lol. But for BRS, there just isnt that impetus or concern to do so... I mean, it's just sprung up out of thin air - "oh ... this cures hair loss by the way"..... just the whole setup stinks of 'BS' - i'd say...93% certainty that this is bullshit, so I mean that remaining 7% is worth the £80 for a potential treatment that could slow or reverse hair loss of all things.

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                      • UK_
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2691

                        #12
                        Originally posted by johnnyboots
                        and after one treatment{one bottle}they claim you will see some results.so if you take a run at it it will only cost you 150.
                        Would you still take this knowing the ingredients (stem cell molecules) are derived from donor tissue of other people?

                        Kinda puts me off tbh lol.

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                        • Flowers
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 254

                          #13
                          Can you imagine how much money merck pays the FDA to deny / prolong the process of approving new treatments. It's a big industry so it's not a question of "if". It definitely happens and that just makes it even more unfair

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Flowers
                            Can you imagine how much money merck pays the FDA to deny / prolong the process of approving new treatments. It's a big industry so it's not a question of "if". It definitely happens and that just makes it even more unfair
                            Merck lose their licence in 2014 I believe... right when all the new treatments should be arriving lol.

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                            • johnnyboots
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 143

                              #15
                              Originally posted by UK_
                              Would you still take this knowing the ingredients (stem cell molecules) are derived from donor tissue of other people?

                              Kinda puts me off tbh lol.
                              if it helps regrow my hair,i would probaly rub shit on my head.

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