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  • RichardDawkins
    Inactive
    • Jan 2011
    • 895

    #31
    Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
    What a disaster SMP could be. I'm beginning to question Dr. Rassman. Actually I was thinking the other day, suppose someone goes for a FUT today and within ten years Aderans perfect hair cloning to the degree that this illusion of density bs was over; they might feel like a right idiot for taking the plunge. The longer you can hold out the better your options will be in the future.
    You give them 10 years? Thats way too much, you know a few days ago i read something really crazy at hair site. Where Umar was working on a NW7 guy (something nobody would do, but he explained it under the possibility of upcoming future treatments like hair multiplication.

    I was like " WTF is going on"

    Quote : With the donor supply limitations imposed by this method, it would be irresponsible to attempt a transplant on a patient with hair loss this severe.

    The future of hair restoration should be premised on:

    1. The absolute or relative absence of donor supply limitations
    2. Genetic manipulation that renders DHT sensitivity a non issue

    The restoration performed on the following individual was based on the above premise, buoyed by the fact that his expectations were very reasonable. Here he is 1.25 years after his hair transplant which was all done in 1 session:"

    And then i was really really really really really really pissed because NOW all of those surgeons begin to slowly admit " Nom nom nom yeah yeah donor regroth is possible we could do it today nom nom nom but hey NOBODY of you patients asked"

    Finally we go somewhere and i like it because it was long overdue that evben standard transplants go one step beyond.

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    • Delphi
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 546

      #32
      Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
      What a disaster SMP could be. I'm beginning to question Dr. Rassman. Actually I was thinking the other day, suppose someone goes for a FUT today and within ten years Aderans perfect hair cloning to the degree that this illusion of density bs was over; they might feel like a right idiot for taking the plunge. The longer you can hold out the better your options will be in the future.
      Everybody should question Dr. Rassman. He’s selling HEAD TATOOS for thousands of dollars and claims to be a doctor. It’s a disgrace, and should not be taken seriously as a viable treatment for hair loss. I hate to think how many men were convinced to do this to themselves because Dr. Rassman has a popular, self promotional blog. These poor guys will certainly regret it in a few years if not right away!

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      • Follicle Death Row
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 1066

        #33
        Originally posted by Delphi
        Everybody should question Dr. Rassman. He’s selling HEAD TATOOS for thousands of dollars and claims to be a doctor. It’s a disgrace, and should not be taken seriously as a viable treatment for hair loss. I hate to think how many men were convinced to do this to themselves because Dr. Rassman has a popular, self promotional blog. These poor guys will certainly regret it in a few years if not right away!
        On paper he looks like one of the pioneers and standup guys but I can't believe he's doing SMP now. Plus he offered Jon Gosselin a hair transplant to get some TV time for his practice. Gave him way too few grafts so that he had him on the hook in the future. Also some poor young norwood 6 won a prize and he went ahead and tried to restore his hair when he had neither enough donor nor the appropriate characteristics. The result was shocking. He also claims to have invented FUE. Yeah right.

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        • Delphi
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 546

          #34
          Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
          On paper he looks like one of the pioneers and standup guys but I can't believe he's doing SMP now. Plus he offered Jon Gosselin a hair transplant to get some TV time for his practice. Gave him way too few grafts so that he had him on the hook in the future. Also some poor young norwood 6 won a prize and he went ahead and tried to restore his hair when he had neither enough donor nor the appropriate characteristics. The result was shocking. He also claims to have invented FUE. Yeah right.
          I don't trust what these doctors write about themselves on the internet. Any doctor who offers head tatoos is not a real doctor and is in it only for the money.

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          • Follicle Death Row
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1066

            #35
            Agreed. SMP is not a viable option.

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            • RichardDawkins
              Inactive
              • Jan 2011
              • 895

              #36
              SMP is irreparable even with hair multiplication you simply cannot camouflage the tattoo its impossible even with a 300 density, because when your hair turns grey etc.

              Sorry but people should never opt for a head tattoo this is just as wrong as scalp reduction. sorry this madnes has to stop

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              • damnhair
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 12

                #37
                Why would (or should) this not be an option, IF you were dark skinned, had black hair (no family history of going grey), looked best with close shaved hair styles, and only wanted it to cover up for receding corners?

                Thats basically the situation I'm in right now, and this looks like exactly what I've been looking for (especially if they really are using different inks than traditional tattoos, which will fade more rapidly...taking away some of my fear of making a permanent mistake).

                I feel like I dodge the problems most ppl. state with this procedure, but I'm still weighing options, as I've never had any cosmetic procedures (or tattoos) at all =/

                Thanks for your opinions!

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                • Infinity
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 9

                  #38
                  I'm a woman!

                  I was considering the tattoo option, because I'm a woman. My hair loss is throughout. What makes matters worse is I am white and very fair skinned with practically black hair. In addition, my hair is curly. So, in between the clumps of spirals you see head, head, head, head, everywhere! We don't want head, we want hair! Everyday I "paint" my scalp with Dermamatch. It's OK. But not the same as hair. I would love to come out of a shower or swim and not have to paint my head (women have enough to do already ). So, I thought I'd have my entire head colored in, solid. I know this sounds crazy, and I probably won't do it, but man, if you thought hair loss was bad, try experiencing it as a woman. Not a good hair day!

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                  • Delphi
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 546

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Infinity
                    I was considering the tattoo option, because I'm a woman. My hair loss is throughout. What makes matters worse is I am white and very fair skinned with practically black hair. In addition, my hair is curly. So, in between the clumps of spirals you see head, head, head, head, everywhere! We don't want head, we want hair! Everyday I "paint" my scalp with Dermamatch. It's OK. But not the same as hair. I would love to come out of a shower or swim and not have to paint my head (women have enough to do already ). So, I thought I'd have my entire head colored in, solid. I know this sounds crazy, and I probably won't do it, but man, if you thought hair loss was bad, try experiencing it as a woman. Not a good hair day!
                    I know how desperate you feel, but tattooing your head is a very bad idea. I personally think it’s unethical and irresponsible, especially for a doctor to promote this. Dr. Rassman just sees this as a cash grab and it’s disgusting! Please don’t do this to yourself.

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                    • dgman21
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 203

                      #40
                      I'm a guy experiencing this same type of loss and I'm 32 and not married. If I was 52 and happily married I may feel different!!!!!!!

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                      • damnhair
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 12

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Delphi
                        I know how desperate you feel, but tattooing your head is a very bad idea. I personally think it’s unethical and irresponsible, especially for a doctor to promote this. Dr. Rassman just sees this as a cash grab and it’s disgusting! Please don’t do this to yourself.
                        Well, micro pigmentation (whether for the lips, eyelids, scalp, or whatever) is a cosmetic procedure (as is a hair transplant), so obviously most doctors or practitioners involved with it, are in it for the $. That shouldn't really matter to anyone considering it though. As a person considering scalp pigmentation (or a hair transplant), the most important thing should be how well the service provided will suite your needs. That is the only way to determine if it is a bad idea.

                        If scalp pigmentation was able to provide her with the appearance of hair density that she is looking for (and accomplish that at a lower cost than a transplant or other procedure, with less medical risk than hair growth drugs), then I think it would be a very GOOD idea.

                        Scalp pigmentation definitely has its limitations (can't grow, wont change color to match your natural hairs potential color changes), but I think it has a lot of potential as well.

                        Obviously it's not natural, but no treatment is. Drugs change your bodys "natural" chemical balance. Transplants move hairs from their "natural" positions, etc. None of that matters. What matters, is to make whoever is doing it look (and subsequently feel) better.

                        I myself will be having scalp micropigmentation within the next 3 months (just deciding between companies now). I had a face to face meeting with a man who had scalp micropigmentation done over his entire head today, and although I did not examine it under a magnifying glass, it DID look quite natural AND REAL from less than a foot away. He had the very "defined" hairline that I'm not a big fan of with scalp micropigmentation users, but aside from that (which I assume was his choice), his "hair" looked extremely good. Basically, my only issue was that the hairline looked "too good". If any of us had that issue with our hair, I doubt we'd even be posting here anymore lol.

                        Additionally, the negative claim often made about SMP being prone to "change color over time" appears to be false. I was concerned about this too, but have found at least one company (one of the best), willing to put it into a written guarantee, that their inks will NOT change color over time (although they may fade to a lighter shade of black or dark grey over time).

                        Basically...SMP is not for everyone, but it certainly isn't the devil either lol

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                        • jt1212
                          Junior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2

                          #42
                          Scalp Micro Pigmentation Don't Go There

                          I've been reading all the posts to do with scalp pigmentation and I talk by experience because I have just had the procedure in london and birmingham and continue to try to sort out what I consider to be a very very poor result from supposedly the biggest clinic in the uk.My story is I had a supposed mega session strip surgery with NHI in athens in 2006 it was a disaster cost me £5500 and all I was left with was a scar from ear to ear that I was told would disappear within four months five years on it is still there I also had some crown work in 2009 from another clinic in london which wasn't very good either so that was £8000 spent as most of you are doing I was looking for anything I look younger than I am I dress really stylishly but I've been losing my hair since I was 21 years old I'm now 42 so I decided to look at smp with the biggest and best clinic in the uk(they also have other clinics abroad)apparently they haven't had a complaint in eight years of doing this which is very impressive so I met them in london and decided to go for it the cost was £3000 as I was quite advanced allthough I did have some hair on the front from my previous strip in athens my conclusion is exactly what delphi says I totally agree with him this is a tattoo end of a few days after I had the first procedure it started fading out delphi was having a debate with I wish I had hair about fading well I can tell you it fades out after a few days its a disaster the inks which are supposed to be more specialised than a normal tattoo(I've never had a tattoo before)run it looks like a blueish green stain running over your head I don't know much about normal tattoo's but I don't think they would start to fade or run within a couple of days its really bad if I went to a tattoo parlour in london I don't think this would happen after a few days the pictures they show on their website are not what I've experienced their crown work is terrible I printed some of their pictures of crown work off the internet and said I want the crown to look like that and the response was we can't do that even though my horseshoe wasn't as bad as in the other photos my response to damnhair is if you haven't had smp yet don't do it honestly its not worth it the practitioners are supposed to be well trained with years of experience yet I've been to birmingham twice and london five or six times and they still can't get it right everytime I ask for a certain thing to be done and they can't seem to do it I come out with exactly the same look as I had before they say don't sweat(how can you stop sweating especially in the summer)don't go in the sun don't do this don't do that in summary as delphi said don't waste your money I know your desperate like I am but look for something else this is not the answer it does fade out very very quickly moreso than a normal tattoo it does run really badly I wish I hadn't done it now and am talking to the clinic now about the way forward they'll show you all the glossy pictures that you see on the website what you need to do is talk to people in person to see the work of the clinic or practioner that is doing your procedure and take it from there personally I think this looks better on dark or afro caribbean type people who only need small areas worked on it doesn't look natural it looks like its been painted on luckily I've got a little hair on top which masks that if you got no hair top and back I would strongly advise against having it done unless you like a matt gloss finish it looks ridiculous and finally no doctor should be promoting smp its all about money at the end of the day I wish I hadn't had it done in the longterm its not a viable solution to baldness don't go there.

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                          • JonB.
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 109

                            #43
                            I also met with the same gentleman in NYC recently and I too believe this to be a clean crisp look and at 52 years old this year I believe this is a viable option.

                            I have signed up to have this MHT procedure and I look forward to the freedom that it offers.

                            I've met serveral individuals who have had this MHT procedure and its impressive. Its a nice clean totally realistic look. This is my impression from meeting several individuals who have had this MHT procedure done.

                            I believe hair transplantation is a valued path for many to take and I believe the HIS MHT procedure is also a viable option.

                            Combining the two makes perfect sense for increased density something that many hair transplant doctors have challenges with or create the need for multiple surgery's. MHT can be a valuable tool in decreasing the need for secondary or possibly three transplant procedures...and still achieve a great look. (although the cost quoted in the first post here seems quite excesssive and probably inaccurate)


                            All I am suggesting is to keep an open mind to new tools available to hair transplant doctors that might aid them in creating a new and exciting look with a hair transplant...

                            I in fact will not be undergoing a hair transplant but rather moving to the clean crisp look of MHT. I did my research and believe this is an exciting way for me to go. I will be having the service completed in NYCity as the office opens this fall. I've already scheduled it with the owner.

                            I understand those who prefer the hair transplant or hair transplant surgery and MHT process combined.

                            When the day comes that hair cloning is available...which supposedly is possible sooner rather than later...if we are to believe reports..(J/K) then I always have the option of having a hair transplant as well...

                            I hope this gives insight to what some of us are considering, what some of us are doing and all I am suggesting is keep an open mind. All the while doing the research for what I believe is a wonderful option..

                            The firm I am using has headquarters in England and is opening up services in the United States as well. I have done my research and for those who might consider this MHT process in addition to a hair transplant or instead of....this is the fine organization I personally recommend.

                            Hope this helps share information and of course thats what this great site is about.

                            JB

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                            • RichardDawkins
                              Inactive
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 895

                              #44
                              No i personally just cant give a YES to scalp tattoos even in desperate cases. Sorry its unethical and a lazy way for docs to make more money with less effort.

                              Just LOOK which clinics this stuff offer to patient and what age the performing or head surgeons (rassmann) are? You see the thing here. Its just highly unethical, only because those clinics simply missed the train to "Futur treatements" they sell this stuff.

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                              • JonB.
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 109

                                #45
                                Richard,

                                I respect your opinion and I hope that as a member of this community for several years I hope you would respect my findings.

                                I understand the concerns and of course there are firms that after doing my research I would not use.

                                That said. ....I did my due dilegence with the HIS firm out of England, I have personally met with clients who had this service done and I was impressed.

                                Misinformation is a dangerous thing. I've done my research, seen those who have had this fine HIS service completed and I'm moving forward with it this fall.

                                I have recieved multiple emails from supposedly competing services and their ethics are questionable to say the least.

                                I have found that HIS service has a business model and ethics that I can respect.

                                Of course having a hair transplant by one of the fine doctors on this site is a wonderful option for many. This was not the case for me after the fine consultations by the well respected doctors on this site.

                                I did not feel like going through multiple hair transplant procedures over a period of years. I'm not a model. I don't play one on TV. I beieve I can achieve a very clean crisp low maintaince look using HIS Services.

                                I will certainly report back in the fall after I have this fine service completed and will show before and after photos for those of you to examine.

                                All I ask is that you be respectful and kind as you view my before and after photos ...

                                I do believe from my research that HIS MHT service can assist even the finest hair transplant doctors achieve a fuller, higher density look with some individuals in the near future.

                                Keep an open mind...continue on your present path and have a nice day.

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