Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • jpm
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 250

    Histogen combines VEGF with other ingredients for their HSC. Although Nanogen brought out a VEGF serum and most people slammed it.

    There must be something in this VEGF is it works for Histogen or they are continuing to use this substance...

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    • neversaynever
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 648

      Originally posted by sausage
      Anyone know a year/possible date when this will be available if all goes well?
      Its impossible to say. its not even clear when phase 2 will be complete

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      • Scoots
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 15

        Originally posted by neversaynever
        Its impossible to say. its not even clear when phase 2 will be complete


        It says here that they're still in phase 1 for the HSC, and phase 2 for the injection device. Estimated completion for the end of this year but these dates always change.

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        • UK_
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2744

          Originally posted by sausage
          anyone know a year/possible date when this will be available if all goes well?
          its only another 5 years away!!!!

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2744

            Originally posted by Scoots
            http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...istogen&rank=1

            It says here that they're still in phase 1 for the HSC, and phase 2 for the injection device. Estimated completion for the end of this year but these dates always change.
            Thats just the placebo they inject "Dulbecco's Modified Eagle Medium" - they are in "phase I/II" and will have results this month presented at the SID.

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            • yeahyeahyeah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1818

              Originally posted by UK_
              Thats just the placebo they inject "Dulbecco's Modified Eagle Medium" - they are in "phase I/II" and will have results this month presented at the SID.
              Is histogen in phase 1 or 2?

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              • Kiwi
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1105

                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                Is histogen in phase 1 or 2?
                Are you serious. Its 2 and its written everywhere...

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1818

                  Originally posted by Kiwi
                  Are you serious. Its 2 and its written everywhere...
                  http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...istogen&rank=1 says they are in phase 1

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                  • neversaynever
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 648

                    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                    But they released their 'pilot' results last year, 1 year post injection. Is their pilot not the phase 1?

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                    • neversaynever
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 648

                      this suggests phase 1 is complete and they are in phase 2. As I understand it, the study with 24 patients was their phase 1.



                      Ive always been confused about their status. I think I also read somewhere they are doing combined phase 1/2 trials in asia.

                      It would be very nice if we can get an official update soon.

                      Maybe this?

                      Society for Investigative Dermatology (SID) Annual Meeting
                      May 9 - 12, 2012
                      Raleigh, NC
                      Dr. Gail Naughton to present "Stimulation of hair growth in humans by cell-secreted proteins"

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                      • jpm
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 250

                        I thought they were in phase 2 too! But evidently not which is a bit of a shame. So the results they published back in July 2009, where they phase 1??

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                        • john2399
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 527

                          They are in phase 2. It should be avaible in 2014 in asia and 2015-16 in United States.

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                          • jpm
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 250

                            Originally posted by john2399
                            They are in phase 2. It should be avaible in 2014 in asia and 2015-16 in United States.
                            What about the UK and EU?

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                            • neversaynever
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 648

                              Originally posted by john2399
                              They are in phase 2. It should be avaible in 2014 in asia and 2015-16 in United States.
                              When did they start phase 2? Im sure i read that they started in spring last year, after a few delays. If thats the case then they are nearly one year into it. I think I also read that they plan to release an update halfway into phase 2, which would be about now.

                              Fingers crossed

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                              • Pate
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 427

                                They are in Phase II and started it in January 2012. 3 month results should be available in the next few months.

                                This is where Intercytex fell down. It's crunch time for Histogen. If they can improve on their Phase I results which were 20% increase in terminal hairs at 3 months (compared to Replicel's 3% at 6 months!) then I imagine they will have a marketable product.

                                If they do an Intercytex then... well, Aderans is our last hope. And that is a particularly depressing thought.

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