Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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Exactly, like Fin and Minox - and the latter is the reason why you're still here ...

I class neither fin or minox as non-viable treatment options.

Fin - messing with my hormones. You have gotta be kidding me.

Even if it does work, what happens after YEARS of changing your hormonal balance?

Minox - I am on the fence. At the same time I have read too many horror stories of guys starting it, shedding like shit and losing hair. I dont even think you can reliably maintain on it.

This is why I am watching these new treatments closely. I want something that works that is safe and effective.

As gail rightly said only 7% treat their hairloss, and this is why.

[hellouser]

Do you have a link to back this up? I'm on the fence of purchasing the RU compound, but want to see the improvements. I know that one irish lad on the other forum had great results, but that's the only noted individual that I've seen thus far.

Irishpride86 on ************ is an example of some ridiculous results.

http://www.*****************/interact...U58841-NOW-FIN

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Irishpride86 on ************ is an example of some ridiculous results.

http://www.*****************/interact...U58841-NOW-FIN

The problem with RU, is that if you travel a lot. It is not a viable treatment option.

[hellouser]

I class neither fin or minox as viable treatment options.

Fin - messing with my hormones. You have gotta be kidding me.

Even if it does work, what happens after YEARS of changing your hormonal balance?

Minox - I am on the fence. At the same time I have read too many horror stories of guys starting it, shedding like shit and losing hair. I dont even think you can reliably maintain on it.

This is why I am watching these new treatments closely. I want something that works that is safe and effective.

As gail rightly said only 7% treat their hairloss, and this is why.

Doubt it. I would bet one of my testicles and say that only 7% treat their hairloss for other more obvious reasons.

1) Hairloss isn't a night and day thing, it slowly creeps up before an individual notices to take action.

2) A lot of men have no idea that there are solutions to treat hairloss... and thats the big one. 2 years ago I had no idea of products such as minoxidil, finasteride, etc. I only once heard about hair transplants about a decade ago as well and didn't think much of it. Fast forward to today and I'm a great example of a guy that noticed his hairline being receded before being to late to stop it going past NW1.

You'll see that 7% number jump way higher if you educated men on the topic.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Doubt it. I would bet one of my testicles and say that only 7% treat their hairloss for other more obvious reasons.

1) Hairloss isn't a night and day thing, it slowly creeps up before an individual notices to take action.

2) A lot of men have no idea that there are solutions to treat hairloss... and thats the big one. 2 years ago I had no idea of products such as minoxidil, finasteride, etc. I only once heard about hair transplants about a decade ago as well and didn't think much of it. Fast forward to today and I'm a great example of a guy that noticed his hairline being receded before being to late to stop it going past NW1.

You'll see that 7% number jump way higher if you educated men on the topic.

Sure - that too.

But I am an example of someone who knows about treatment options that is refusing to touch fin.

And with all the bad press against fin, it has given me more of a reason to not touch it.

[hellouser]

The problem with RU, is that if you travel a lot. It is not a viable treatment option.

I know this first hand, I went to europe for 2 months this year and had to take my RU58841 with me along with two small bottles of isopropanol (99%) and polypropylene glycol. RU should last for at least a couple days before going bad when mixed in the solution. I was lucky because I was with family and friends but kept my main RU package in a freezer and took smaller portions premixed with me to wherever I was going and applied on the spot before bed.

Yes its a hassle, but realistically, how often does one travel to render RU an illegitimate option? That is of course you don't have a job like being a flight attendant or something, lol.

[hellouser]

Sure - that too.

But I am an example of someone who knows about treatment options that is refusing to touch fin.

And with all the bad press against fin, it has given me more of a reason to not touch it.

I'm in the same boat, I will not *ever* touch Finasteride. I'd rather go bald than limp or permanently limp.

If I were you, I'd give RU58841 a go with Minox despite your worries. I've been on Minox for just over a year and my hair density in my crown has definitely improved. I'm still working on my hairline though, I'm on RU as well and only about a month ago have I bumped up my dosage to 100mg every day before bed. I've already noticed a ton of vellus hairs in my temples, I'm hoping they eventually turn terminal.

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I know this first hand, I went to europe for 2 months this year and had to take my RU58841 with me along with two small bottles of isopropanol (99&#37 and polypropylene glycol. RU should last for at least a couple days before going bad when mixed in the solution. I was lucky because I was with family and friends but kept my main RU package in a freezer and took smaller portions premixed with me to wherever I was going and applied on the spot before bed.

Yes its a hassle, but realistically, how often does one travel to render RU an illegitimate option? That is of course you don't have a job like being a flight attendant or something, lol.

What if you have a job that requires you to travel a lot - consultant?

What if you plan to go on a roadtrip with friends/gf etc Many in their 20s do this.

What if you are going away for camping for a week.

There are so many scenarios.

RU is an all around pain in the ass.

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Yep Tin_Man was talking out of his ass 2 years ago. "wnt ligands wont work" hahaha stupid tin man.

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Yep Tin_Man was talking out of his ass 2 years ago. "wnt ligands wont work" hahaha stupid tin man.

I remember that.