Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • gmonasco
    Inactive
    • Apr 2010
    • 883

    Originally posted by Nilli57211
    Even if all it does is stimulate resting follicles, that's freaking amazing. For people with bald scalps, it could get some of their hair back
    Hair follicles in a bald scalp aren't simply in the telogen (i.e., resting) phase. A treatment that prompts early cycling of hair in the telogen phase therefore won't do anything for bald scalps.

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    • Supersixx
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 49

      Originally posted by jpm
      would you want to go to a NW0, will most ethical Dr's do that?. I think you would look odd a NW0 at 50!
      Where do some get the idea that having a Norwood 0 or youthful hairline at 50 or 60 makes you look odd? So what about all those senior citizens out there with a full head of hair (NW0) ? Do they look odd? Don't think so. Who really wants to look old If they don't have to? You are only as young as you feel and if you can look how you feel, go for it.......and another point, isn't looking young or keeping young, through finding a cure for MPB Everybodys objective here? Because last time I check , baldness adds years if not decades to ones appearance.

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      • clandestine
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2005

        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        Why not, if I have enough donor hair?

        TBH that argument of it looking weird at 50 is silly. It's a statement made by HT doctors in order to make the patient feel better about themselves with a more recessed hairline.





        All with perfect NW0 hair, and don't look weird.
        What the **** is going on with these people? Do they all have hair transplants, or just lucky? I see literally no recession, I can't fathom it.

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        • gmonasco
          Inactive
          • Apr 2010
          • 883

          Originally posted by Nilli57211
          That post wasn't particularly negative, but there's just a trend of his posts being extremely skeptical about results that have been produced.
          I'm not skeptical about the results; I'm skeptical about people here understanding what those results actually mean.

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1818

            Originally posted by clandestine
            What the **** is going on with these people? Do they all have hair transplants, or just lucky? I see literally no recession, I can't fathom it.
            They aren't balding.

            This is why I think the whole concept of a "mature hairline" is BS.

            At best a mature hairline is very slow MPB.

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            • jpm
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 250

              Originally posted by Supersixx
              Where do some get the idea that having a Norwood 0 or youthful hairline at 50 or 60 makes you look odd? So what about all those senior citizens out there with a full head of hair (NW0) ? Do they look odd? Don't think so. Who really wants to look old If they don't have to? You are only as young as you feel and if you can look how you feel, go for it.......and another point, isn't looking young or keeping young, through finding a cure for MPB Everybodys objective here? Because last time I check , baldness adds years if not decades to ones appearance.
              Well as we are obsessed by getting girls on this site I think you'll find that a lot of girls actually like having a guy with a slightly receeded hairline. I makes them look more mature and wiser.

              I'm not going to argue. Just my opinion and we are all entitled to ours.

              Just seems silly to spend so much money, pain, time and effort to get a HT to a NW level that the vast majority don't have and women don't care in the slightest about

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              • Kiwi
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1105

                Originally posted by gmonasco
                I'm not skeptical about the results; I'm skeptical about people here understanding what those results actually mean.
                What do you know that the rest of us don't?

                Histogen haven't posted any phase 2 results yet so neither of you guys actually know shit. You're both speculating.

                What I'd like to know is what is the difference between the follicles in a bald shiny head vs the follicles in bald thinning areas.

                In both cases there is no hair so how can histogen work for one and not the other. Genuine question

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                • greatjob!
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 910

                  Originally posted by gmonasco
                  I'm not skeptical about the results; I'm skeptical about people here understanding what those results actually mean.
                  well said!!

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                  • gmonasco
                    Inactive
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 883

                    Originally posted by Kiwi
                    Histogen haven't posted any phase 2 results yet so neither of you guys actually know shit. You're both speculating.
                    Highlighting information that Histogen itself has posted about its trial results is hardly "speculation."

                    What do you know that the rest of us don't?
                    How to read documents without the use of rose-colored glasses.

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1818

                      Originally posted by jpm
                      Well as we are obsessed by getting girls on this site I think you'll find that a lot of girls actually like having a guy with a slightly receeded hairline. I makes them look more mature and wiser.

                      I'm not going to argue. Just my opinion and we are all entitled to ours.

                      Just seems silly to spend so much money, pain, time and effort to get a HT to a NW level that the vast majority don't have and women don't care in the slightest about
                      If you are only a NW2, then getting down to at least a NW1 or 0 is realistic with future treatments.

                      And it isn't about the girls, I like the options you have with hair styling with a low norwood.

                      Finally, you are RIGHT, as long as your hair is presentable, it does not matter to women.

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                      • jpm
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 250

                        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                        If you are only a NW2, then getting down to at least a NW1 or 0 is realistic with future treatments.

                        And it isn't about the girls, I like the options you have with hair styling with a low norwood.

                        Finally, you are RIGHT, as long as your hair is presentable, it does not matter to women.
                        Each to their own mate.

                        If the only thing in my life that was bugging me was wanting to be a NW1 from a NW2 I'd be a very very happy man lol

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                        • john2399
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 527

                          This is the answer dudes...histogen will lead us to a much better solution to treating this miserable disease. Lets hope it comes out very soon.

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                          • Gjm127
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 171

                            Originally posted by john2399
                            This is the answer dudes...histogen will lead us to a much better solution to treating this miserable disease. Lets hope it comes out very soon.
                            What's next for Histogen? Phase 3, Phase 4, FDA approval, etc...
                            I'm not asking for the exact date, does anyone have a legitimate projection of what the future holds for this company?

                            I am between NW1 and NW2 and I'm on Toco-8, Black Tea and Resveratrol. Should I keep at this until this treatment comes out?

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                            • john2399
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 527

                              Originally posted by Gjm127
                              What's next for Histogen? Phase 3, Phase 4, FDA approval, etc...
                              I'm not asking for the exact date, does anyone have a legitimate projection of what the future holds for this company?

                              I am between NW1 and NW2 and I'm on Toco-8, Black Tea and Resveratrol. Should I keep at this until this treatment comes out?
                              They still have to finish phase 2 than go to phase 3. If everything goes well it could be avaible in asia by 2014 or even earlier. 2015 is more realistic for the United States.

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                              • yeahyeahyeah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1818

                                Originally posted by Gjm127
                                I am between NW1 and NW2 and I'm on Toco-8, Black Tea and Resveratrol. Should I keep at this until this treatment comes out?
                                As long as you are maintaining, then no don't change your regime.

                                How old are you? If you are a NW1-2 and are maintaining, very much doubt that you will lose significant amounts of hair by the time it comes out.

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