Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

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  • jpm
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 250

    Originally posted by bostonhooligan
    This shows pretty good regrowth at the temples!!

    Without tempting fate, I can't see what could go wrong. Maybe tumors, but that doesn't seem likely at this point

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    • eqvist
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 96

      Oooo my good this made me happy!!! Sick if this is going to work and hit the market!

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      • gmonasco
        Inactive
        • Apr 2010
        • 883

        Originally posted by 25 going on 65
        But would creating new hair follicles be necessary if the issue is just genetic alopecia? Couldn't we just induce the existing follicles to grow hair?
        You mean induce "dead" follicles to start growing hair again? That may be all you need, but the Histogen article doesn't state that HSC is doing that. What they're describing sounds like a more effective form of minoxidil -- something that strengthens existing hairs and prematurely coaxes resting hairs out of the telogen phase.

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        • neversaynever
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 648

          Looks good....

          We need an interview. Is there an average hair count increase on that pdf? Cant see it.

          Damn, its only slide 1 from their presentation. How long is phase 2 meant to be? 2 years?

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          • jpm
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 250

            Originally posted by gmonasco
            You mean induce "dead" follicles to start growing hair again? That may be all you need, but the Histogen article doesn't state that HSC is doing that. What they're describing sounds like a more effective form of minoxidil -- something that strengthens existing hairs and prematurely coaxes resting hairs out of the telogen phase.
            Thats why its important to keep as many follicles ''alive'' until HSC is released.

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            • kaandereli
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 57

              good find, well done!results are impressive , hopefully we seem to be approaching to the end!

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              • clandestine
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2005

                Look at that temple regrowth

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                • Gjm127
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 171

                  Originally posted by clandestine
                  Look at that temple regrowth
                  CRAZY! This is absolutely nuts!
                  It appears more they inject, more there's regrowth!

                  People, today should mark the happiest day of our lives IMO.

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                  • neversaynever
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 648

                    Originally posted by Gjm127
                    CRAZY! This is absolutely nuts!
                    It appears more they inject, more there's regrowth!

                    People, today should mark the happiest day of our lives IMO.
                    Damn vagueness! That picture of the temple looks like it has barely any hair, and now its filling up. At one year these results are going to be even better. I, WE need more details.

                    Also, I wonder if it would be beneficial to have HSC injections a few days after a HT?

                    Id like an average across all 55 patients.

                    How long does this phase 2 last? is it like a phase 2b?

                    And we definately need more info on how sleeping follicles are responding.

                    Exciting!

                    Grrrrrr. Should I get on fin? Hmmm

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                    • BoSox
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 708

                      Guys.. if you're not on Fin, you will regret it. HSC will cure us, maintain what you have with FDA approved drugs.

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                      • neversaynever
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 648

                        Originally posted by BoSox
                        Guys.. if you're not on Fin, you will regret it. HSC will cure us, maintain what you have with FDA approved drugs.
                        When I opened this site just now, in big letters i saw "Fin Syndrome". Hmmmmmm.

                        Anyways, lets keep on topic.

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                        • 25 going on 65
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1476

                          Originally posted by gmonasco
                          You mean induce "dead" follicles to start growing hair again? That may be all you need, but the Histogen article doesn't state that HSC is doing that. What they're describing sounds like a more effective form of minoxidil -- something that strengthens existing hairs and prematurely coaxes resting hairs out of the telogen phase.
                          I see, thanks for clarifying that.
                          But I was under the impression that follicles no longer producing hair are not "dead" as much as in a permanent telogen phase. "Dormant" I guess. Am I wrong about that?

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                          • WashedOut
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 112

                            Look at those temples man. Those temples! This is the best thing this forum could get after Replicel results.

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                            • jpm
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 250

                              Is it too early to speculate on price?

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                              • jpm
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 250

                                oh and just on fin (dont mean to bring this thread off topic) and I know people have reservations about fin and i respect that.

                                But stabilizing hair loss with fin now could be a very wise move. If histogen is released around 2015 it would reap the best outcome if as many hair follicles are non-DHT inhibited as possible. Also in the next few years, CB and other new antiandrogens may very well be available. So keeping as much hair as possible for the next few years should be a priority.

                                Not to push anyone into fin, just my 2 pennies worth

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