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  • Corrida
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 15

    New and worried about thinning at the crown

    I'm a 21 year old male who has recently started to worry about thinning around the crown. Gonna post three links. First one is a picture under a flash and the next two pictures under direct sunlight. What do you all think?





    Should be noted this is when my hair is a bit greasy prior to showering.
  • Corrida
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2018
    • 15

    #2
    Anybody?

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    • Marc1
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 2

      #3
      When I was 19, I noticed the same thinning of the crown, but the thinning stopped for a long time. Unfortunately, in my 30's it started to thin even more. Male pattern hair loss is influenced by testosterone and metabolites of it. At 21, you certainly have that influence now. Hair loss is multifactorial. Genetics, environment and emotional. Stress of college seemed to have an influence on me, but when I was in my 30's, that most likely is genetic as my mother's father and uncles were all bald. The baldness gene is on the X chromosome, hence if you are male, it is from your mother.

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      • Corrida
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2018
        • 15

        #4
        Originally posted by Marc1
        When I was 19, I noticed the same thinning of the crown, but the thinning stopped for a long time. Unfortunately, in my 30's it started to thin even more. Male pattern hair loss is influenced by testosterone and metabolites of it. At 21, you certainly have that influence now. Hair loss is multifactorial. Genetics, environment and emotional. Stress of college seemed to have an influence on me, but when I was in my 30's, that most likely is genetic as my mother's father and uncles were all bald. The baldness gene is on the X chromosome, hence if you are male, it is from your mother.
        So then this does look like thinning to you? My maternal grandfather was bald, but he was allegedly an alcoholic. My father has a nice head of hair at 70 with no thinning at the crown and he's probably a NW2.5. My oldest brother (31) doesn't seem to have any balding at the crown nor a ton of recession at the frontal hairline. I've also been told I have very fine hair (thin strands). Also, what do you mean I have that influence? As in DHT and metabolites could affect me at my age? Or they are already?

        Also, thank you for your reply, Marc.

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        • mrclean
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 524

          #5
          I don't see anything but you need a before picture to compare.

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          • Corrida
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2018
            • 15

            #6
            Originally posted by mrclean
            I don't see anything but you need a before picture to compare.
            I don't have any :/

            Just started worrying about this a few days ago.

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            • Marc1
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2018
              • 2

              #7
              Some people naturally have thinner hair. If you have noticed more thinning in the last year or two as evidence of hair in the shower, and you never noticed that before, then this shows an active thinning. If you have always had thin hair, then this is not an active concern. Male pattern baldness is not inherited from your dad, but only from your mom. Your mom has 2 X chromosomes, and you have one of them. One is from her father, and one is from her mother. Your brother may have the same X chromosome as you, or he may have the other one. DHT is a precursor to testosterone and as a male, you have its influence on your hair.

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              • Corrida
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2018
                • 15

                #8
                Originally posted by Marc1
                Some people naturally have thinner hair. If you have noticed more thinning in the last year or two as evidence of hair in the shower, and you never noticed that before, then this shows an active thinning. If you have always had thin hair, then this is not an active concern. Male pattern baldness is not inherited from your dad, but only from your mom. Your mom has 2 X chromosomes, and you have one of them. One is from her father, and one is from her mother. Your brother may have the same X chromosome as you, or he may have the other one. DHT is a precursor to testosterone and as a male, you have its influence on your hair.
                Thanks for the input.

                Any other opinions? I can always add a picture or two under different lighting conditions with less greasy hair.

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                • Corrida
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 15

                  #9


                  Here's another picture when washed. Ah, important to note my mother usually cuts my hair and she hasn't seen anything wrong with my crown, but I'm still not sure.

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                  • Corrida
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Here's another picture after having showered.

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                    • Notgivingup2
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 123

                      #11
                      Zero to worry about at this stage.

                      Some people just have swirl type crowns. Chances are it has always been like that and you've only just noticed.

                      Just check it out every few months, but don't obsess, I'd say you're fine.

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                      • Corrida
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 15

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Notgivingup2
                        Zero to worry about at this stage.

                        Some people just have swirl type crowns. Chances are it has always been like that and you've only just noticed.

                        Just check it out every few months, but don't obsess, I'd say you're fine.
                        Appreciate your reply, man. Might seem like a silly question, but I feel like I can feel that area more. Do you think this is just a consequence of my increased focus on it if it's not actually thinning?

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                        • LondonGuy1990
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 23

                          #13
                          You seem to have thick hair and what you are alluding to looks like nothing to worry about. Simply how the crown grows. I'd continue to monitor it on a monthly basis and if you notice the situation worsening start taking propecia.

                          If you have seen no change over the last few years and the men on your mother's side have hair then this looks like nothing to worry about at all.

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                          • hal
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 63

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Corrida
                            Anybody?
                            I don't see an issue--

                            You can use minox if you're concerned-- a spray on the crown before bedtime should do it. I would not use anything else at this point until you have direct evidence of thinning.

                            Watch and monitor at this point.

                            I honestly can't tell at this point if you have thinning in the crown-- lot's of people show a little scalp at the crown where the hair swirls at the vertex.

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                            • Corrida
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 15

                              #15
                              It's odd. When I wake up in the morning, I typically find like 8-12 hairs on my pillow,
                              but if I continue to lie in bed for another few hours I might see another dozen fall out. What's this mean?

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