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    I've had several hair restoration procedures old (early 90's) and recent strip fut. with an ISHRS doctor to try and fix the mess caused by the earlier older procedures both old and new performed by the same doctor. (sorry for not naming him but I still have to try and work things out with him)

    Two very very bad life changing things have happenned to me:

    1./ Coming home from work when I was an 18 year old kid and finding my mother dead in her bed (she was only 49) I'm almost that age now.

    2./ Attempting to remedy my hairloss problem surgically:
    There was no internet back then (1992) very few books, the yellow pages and whatever literature the doctor gave you was all you had to go by. Some mob tried to sell me a $1,500 couse of shampoo which of course would not have worked (blocked follicles? Give me a break)
    If you were looking to remedy your hairloss surgically before 1996 you were probably going to end up in big trouble (until 1996 when someone finally discovered how to use a microscope, treatments were still in the 1950's) There was no Propecia either!

    Hairloss surgery has lagged behind other cosmetic procedures by at least half a century in my opinion...was it medical dogma.....ignorance....who knows?

    I even saw a specialist (Dermatologist who had a full head of hair......bastard LOL) who also advised of the limited and morbid options available at the time around 1992-1993....so I did everything right.....the only thing I did wrong was go through with it.

    Now many years later after living under a cap or wig I attempted to tidy the mess up with some modern FUT but after 12 months it has not grown properly, the area is more scalp than skin, comparing the photos which I took post op to my present condition only about half of the grafts have grown and the ones that have are weak and thin, I do however have fine straight hair but the transplanted hairs are DHT resistant so they should be thicker, maybe 12 months is too early, or more than likely the scarring from earlier surgery has created an unfavourable environment for the FUT transplants.

    They say life is about experiences, well my experience has led me to a greater understanding of the full meaning of certain verbal cliche's which have been around for a long time, here is some which I relate to my experience and hope that younger men out there considering a transplant may think about, some I've added myself and some I've just read on similar forums.

    Don't cut what can be untied:
    Don't make permanent decisions when in a temporary state of mind:
    Regret if really severe turns into anger and depression and lasts a life time:
    A bad hair transplant goes deeper than the body...it cuts into the soul:
    Suicide.....a permanent solution to a temporary problem, don't try it, work through your problems here on earth, the afterlife probably does not have a solution:
    Remember todays "state of the art" hair transplant is tomorrow's butchery:
    Remember hair transplants do NOT give you more hair:
    If you have to sign a waiver before surgery is the surgeon any good?
    The Scalpel has been no friend of mine and has changed my life forever, from the first cut onwards it is forever!
    If you are uncertain what to do, especially if emotion is involved..DO NOTHING
    The saying "a step in the wrong direction is better than standing still" DOES NOT APPLY TO HAIR TRANSPLANTS:
    The mistakes you make today become the person tomorrow:
    Hair pieces are not for everyone but you can at least take them off if you don't like it.......you can't take a hair transplant off.
    The good news and the bad news is that hair transplants are permanent:
    As a performing musician hair pieces have been a good friend to me, get a rough spikey wind in the hair looking one rather than the really bad bank manager parted on one side looking ones, and get salt and pepper with blonde fleckes through it and have your natural hair streaked to match, otherwise they fade and can be noticed from the other side of the street:

    The real winners in the hairloss battle are the guys who shave their heads and are proud of themselves, from the first day of surgery (excluding FUE) a shaved head is not an option...........ever.

    In my opinion the entire hairloss industry over the decades both surgical and non surgical has been an utter disgrace, compare the cost of a hair transplant with other cosmetic procedures (liposuction, nose job etc) they don't cost $30,000 and offer far more predictable results from what I have read. A full hair transplant should at the very best cost $10,000 and I don't care how much work is involved. I sincerely hope that soon one of the companies like Histogen succeeds in finding a viable cure, I wish them all the best, if they do it will at the very least bring hair transplant costs down to an acceptable level.
    Given mankind's natural greed I am astonished that a cure has not been found yet.......the pot of gold would be similar to oil company revenue...........they could buy a country!

    I wish Histogen and other similar companies all the best to finding a cure so that hairloss sufferers all over the world can actually get something universally viable for their money...........a cure!

    In spite of my negative journey I am happy to hear of the patients who are pleased with their results, but please think carefully about it especially if you are still young (in your 20's with an unpredictable hairloss forecast)

    Thanks for reading this post which turned out more like a thesis than a post.

    If I can stop just one young man from having to go through the grief and torment which I have had to, then that's one less in the world which is a good thing

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    muso, thank you for that excellent post. You are absolutely right. To anyone out there considering a hair transplant, please remember that you could be making a big mistake, especially if you go to the wrong surgeon.

    When in doubt, Don't Do It.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muso View Post
    Given mankind's natural greed I am astonished that a cure has not been found yet.......the pot of gold would be similar to oil company revenue...........they could buy a country!
    I don't think a lack of greed is any part of the problem! I'd say that (at least until very recently) there really hasn't been any viable line of research to pursue, so anyone attempting to find a hair loss solution was just risking pouring money into a black hole.

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    Cheers don'tdoit, I would also like to pay tribute to the surgeons out there who specialise in repair work especially in difficult cases with depleted donor hair (most if not all cases) these doctors are truly inspirational, they are saints, some of their results in what looked like truly hopeless cases a simply remarkable. In spite of being very challenging work these particular surgeons I'm sure must feel personally moved when they can bring about a positive result for these patients, it must indeed be very satisfying for them to be able to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmonasco View Post
    I don't think a lack of greed is any part of the problem! I'd say that (at least until very recently) there really hasn't been any viable line of research to pursue, so anyone attempting to find a hair loss solution was just risking pouring money into a black hole.

    Yes there are also probably more important medical issues to direct the vast sums of research money required into such as cancer research, my comment was more directed tongue in cheek at the human race rather than medical scientists, posibly the non embryonic stem cell research will open up treatments high priority serious conditions such as cancer, spinal cord injury, diabetes, etc and also for lower priority......hairloss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muso View Post
    Yes there are also probably more important medical issues to direct the vast sums of research money required into such as cancer research
    For research financed by government or public funding, sure. But private industry is driven by what has the potential for the most profit rather than what's perceived as being the most important.

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    If pursuit of profit within the private industry sector still finds a cure for these medical ailments through research it's still a good thing with a win win result

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    It's surreal when you are sitting in the consult room talking to the doctor who performed all these procedures, everything seems so "normal" and you behave "normal" in spite of the effect his surgery has had on you and your entire family etc for the last 20 years, every aspect of your life has been effected by the surgery but you still behave properly you even crack the odd joke here and there.

    It's strange how nice and "proper" your behaviour is towards the doctor, it's a strange kind of bond that develops, it's a peculiar bond in that it is similar to the bond (in my opinion) that sometimes occurs between hostages and there captors after the seige is over, the event was so close and personal whether it be positive or negative this strange bond exists and you will always feel close to them no matter what they have done to you, there is probably a proper clinical name for it. I think it is because they have had such an enormous impact on your everyday life that (through your eyes) this gives them enormous power over you and we respect power whether it be positive or negative.

    I am only talking about my personal experience and the way I feel, I'm not sure of how the doctor feels about me, I'm just a patient with poor HT results I guess, I don't know.
    Nor am I aware of how other patients feel towards their doctors when in my situation.

    Then leaving the surgery someone on the road cuts you off (no big deal hasn't ruined your life) and you blast your horn and call them an idiot

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    I do regret my strip surgery. I used Dr. McGrath in Austin. 2000 grafts were please too much on the front and not enough were I specifically asked. The direction of the hair is up and out to the sides making my hair harder to style and blend and also as my hair thins the direction of the transplanted hair is more noticable. I do have to say that I have a very thin scar and have gone down to a 2 with no issues. However. I just got it filled this month so when I go to Dr. Koray Erdogan in December for FUE the scar will be less noticable with a shave. I originally wanted FUE but Dr. McGrath's sales person talked me into the strip saying "you will still have dotted scars with the FUE and the FUT can be covered later.. and you will get better results". Well.. i have seen videos and pics of buzzed FUE clients and it is not noticable at all to me. Dr. McGrath's sales person also said that I would not lose all the hair on top and if I did it could be brought back to what I currently had at the time of that surgery 2 and a half years ago. We'll see. I would gove anything to go back and undo FUT. I would much rather have a buzzed balding head then a thin comb over because I can't buzz when I get older. I am hoping that Dr. Ergadon will be able to produce nice results.

    There are so many benefits to FUE over FUT. Dr. Erdogan talks about the homogenization of hair over the scalp which looks much better and more natural and also allows for more grafts to be taken over the whole head and placed in the balding area for a more even look. Especially when buzzed. God I wish I would not have had FUT.
    Last edited by Winston; 06-24-2015 at 09:29 AM.

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    I had surgery with Dr. Wong 5 months ago. So far it's looking pretty good. At this point I do not regret it, how knows down the line. I totally understand the idea of no one really needs a HT and just trying to accept baldness and go on about your life is the best option. Too late for me though.

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