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  • Jackito
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 177

    Destined to be bald

    Is there anything you can actually do if you're destined to be Norwood 6 or is everything currently available considered pointless?

    I want to know if there's anything that can be done to save your hair before it gets to the stage of being a lost cause? Can a hair transplant be an open option to me in the future if timed correctly and mixed with the right treatments? I refuse to go bald! my head shape does not suit it.. I have a very long oblong face which would just be accentuated if I was to lose my hair. It would kill off my sex and social life completely.

    I'm currently a Norwood 2, mature hairline at 19. My balding relative was Norwood 6 during his 40's so I'm likely going to be shaving my head during 30's if I don't combat the loss. Let's say I have 20 years to salvage as much hair as possible.. I'm in a reasonably good position for moment especially at this day and age where treatments are originating and advancing. I'm optimistic about saving my hair and open to all idea's from other people!

    If you're reading this and happen to be or know someone who is following the same path as me then please do comment! I want to know if there's any point in trying to battle this life destroying condition while I still have the option to. I hope there's many other's out there who have the same attitude towards hair loss like I do because I simply refuse to give up.
  • Jackito
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 177

    #2
    Anyone?

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    • GroughBack
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 241

      #3
      Jackito, are you using any topical treatments other than rogaine??

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      • Jackito
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 177

        #4
        Originally posted by GroughBack
        Jackito, are you using any topical treatments other than rogaine??
        I am using none as of now.. the one treatment I am tempted to use is finasteride. Rogaine seems like too much hassle and I've heard stories of men who stopped taking it for as little as 3/4 days and lost hair.

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        • GroughBack
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 241

          #5
          I started with internal Saw palmetto, got some results but not much. When I started applying it topically along with internal. I noticed a dramatic change, helped tremendously right away. I'm not sure if this work in the same way with Fin, they both directly impact DHT. Seems to me that its important to have a topical routine as well.

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          • GroughBack
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 241

            #6
            Jackito, you might be interested in this study, in 2014 a team of Korean researchers published a study on pumpkin seed oil and its effects on pattern hair loss. The study’s results made hair loss headlines across the world.

            After 24 weeks of treatment with pumpkin seed oil, patients with mild to moderate pattern hair loss saw a significant increase in self-rated hair growth and satisfaction scores compared to the placebo group.

            Most impressively, the pumpkin seed oil group saw a 40% increase in hair count. And when it comes to human hair loss studies, a 40% increase in hair count over 24 weeks is amazing.

            For example, a 40% increase in hair count is four times higher than the hair count increases observed in studies on men using 1mg of Finasteride (Propecia) over 48 weeks. That’s 4x the hair count increase, in half the number of weeks!

            Pumpkin seed oil (PSO) has been shown to block the action of 5-alpha reductase and to have antiandrogenic effects on rats. This randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind study was designed to investigate the efficacy and tolerability of PSO for treatment of hair growth in male patients with mild …

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            • GroughBack
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 241

              #7
              When I found this study, I searched the web for products that contain Saw palmetto and pumpkin seed oil and found hairmetto, this is what I have been using.

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              • GroughBack
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 241

                #8
                I think he is doing his best to prevent baldness, HT's should always be a last option. They are a temporary solution with an expiration date.

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                • Jackito
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 177

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GroughBack
                  I think he is doing his best to prevent baldness, HT's should always be a last option. They are a temporary solution with an expiration date.
                  How are hair transplants a temporary solution? They're the only long term, effective treatment we have available right now..

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                  • GroughBack
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 241

                    #10
                    How, many people do you know who have had many? Alot! The realistic lifetime cap is around 8,000. This makes this approach the definition of temporary.

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                    • GroughBack
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 241

                      #11
                      With the embarrassment of patchy eventually failed grafts to wear for the remainder of your life. This will make a bald naturally colored head look pretty. Just better to know with work, you'll hold on to your real hair nearly as long. Difficult to walk around proud, when people not in this forum will look at it as failed attempt of vanity, whether it is or not.
                      I understand, and sm not trying to be a jerk here, just honest.

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                      • 343
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 3

                        #12
                        Hey mate I also suffered this problem in my early 20s and I tried everything I could to stop it.The humiliation no one would look at me the same saying to myself no woman would ever find me attractive. Now I am in my late 30s and I still have an issue with it the only difference is now I am not so sensitive about peoples remarks,looks and so on. I honestly don't think I will ever accept it either I still where a cap everywhere but also when I take it off I just do not seem to care as much as I used to. I will say though as you age it does get easier to deal with I was just really sensitive when I was younger most days I just wanted to end my own life. I don't have those thoughts anymore the advice I can offer you is if you really want to keep it go the minoxidil route and get a high quality shampoo/conditioner and some type of fungus cleaner that gets rid of the bacteria build up from a hair restoration place as they have all the best products for all your needs you can get it all online these days. Take the propecia pills also and saw palametto pills and follow all the instructions closely as it will keep falling out if you become lazy and complacent and skip a couple a days here and there this saved me for about 8 years but by the time I had reached the age of 28 and spent thousands on it it still did not look right it looked like a birds nest. As you can imagine myself esteem was completely shot by this time. It was my younger sister who had convinced me to shave it off and when she did shave it off the amount of relief that came off my shoulders was huge because all of a sudden I did not have to think about having to brush it or try and hide it from public view it had taken away most of the angst and believe me everybody around you does not care their worried about their own lives its just what we tell ourselves over and over until where convinced it is the most hideous thing known to man. The best advice I will offer you until they find the real cure is just shave it really short and keep it like that until you get used to that look then shave it completely off when your ready to. It may take a few years to get to that stage of acceptance but like I said you do get used to it heck I can't even imagine what I would look like with hair now and all the people I come into contact with say the exact same thing the only person saying baldness does not suit you is yourself as I have been through it all hope that helps.

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                        • Jackito
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 177

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 343
                          Hey mate I also suffered this problem in my early 20s and I tried everything I could to stop it.The humiliation no one would look at me the same saying to myself no woman would ever find me attractive. Now I am in my late 30s and I still have an issue with it the only difference is now I am not so sensitive about peoples remarks,looks and so on. I honestly don't think I will ever accept it either I still where a cap everywhere but also when I take it off I just do not seem to care as much as I used to. I will say though as you age it does get easier to deal with I was just really sensitive when I was younger most days I just wanted to end my own life. I don't have those thoughts anymore the advice I can offer you is if you really want to keep it go the minoxidil route and get a high quality shampoo/conditioner and some type of fungus cleaner that gets rid of the bacteria build up from a hair restoration place as they have all the best products for all your needs you can get it all online these days. Take the propecia pills also and saw palametto pills and follow all the instructions closely as it will keep falling out if you become lazy and complacent and skip a couple a days here and there this saved me for about 8 years but by the time I had reached the age of 28 and spent thousands on it it still did not look right it looked like a birds nest. As you can imagine myself esteem was completely shot by this time. It was my younger sister who had convinced me to shave it off and when she did shave it off the amount of relief that came off my shoulders was huge because all of a sudden I did not have to think about having to brush it or try and hide it from public view it had taken away most of the angst and believe me everybody around you does not care their worried about their own lives its just what we tell ourselves over and over until where convinced it is the most hideous thing known to man. The best advice I will offer you until they find the real cure is just shave it really short and keep it like that until you get used to that look then shave it completely off when your ready to. It may take a few years to get to that stage of acceptance but like I said you do get used to it heck I can't even imagine what I would look like with hair now and all the people I come into contact with say the exact same thing the only person saying baldness does not suit you is yourself as I have been through it all hope that helps.
                          Have you ever thought about having SMP done? I've seen many results on the internet of individuals who have had the procedure done and it makes them look 1000x better. It gives back that colour to the skin that a bald head deprives. Also frames the face better.

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                          • Jackito
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 177

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GroughBack
                            With the embarrassment of patchy eventually failed grafts to wear for the remainder of your life. This will make a bald naturally colored head look pretty. Just better to know with work, you'll hold on to your real hair nearly as long. Difficult to walk around proud, when people not in this forum will look at it as failed attempt of vanity, whether it is or not.
                            I understand, and sm not trying to be a jerk here, just honest.
                            What Norwood is my right temple? It feels higher than a Norwood 2 which is what it's been classified as in the past. It just seems to vertical to be a Norwood 2. The left side of my hairline is okay.. seems to be receding a lot slower than the right.
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                            • 343
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 3

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jackito
                              Have you ever thought about having SMP done? I've seen many results on the internet of individuals who have had the procedure done and it makes them look 1000x better. It gives back that colour to the skin that a bald head deprives. Also frames the face better.
                              Thanks I might look into this down the track.But as I posted earlier I have wasted thousands on this in the past already and I'm getting close to 40 now. So the way I see it I don't have to buy a lamborghini as I have gone through my midlife crisis in my 20s thanks for the thought.

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