Misconceptions About FUE Hair Transplants

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  • tbtadmin
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    • Sep 2008
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    Misconceptions About FUE Hair Transplants

    I知 27 years old and I have been dealing with hair loss for the past 5 years. *I would say that I am a Norwood 3, or at least close to it. I am very*interested in undergoing a hair transplant surgery, but I wear my hair fairly*short and know that I will be left with [...]

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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    Very informative video. Thanks for the enlightenment, Dr. Cole.

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    • J_B_Davis
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 409

      #3
      I agree that the video痴 were extremely informative, but I知 having trouble understanding the math when it comes to both the cost and the yield. How do you know how many grafts are growing? Even if you can tattoo a one centimeter area and count exactly how many grafts were inserted and how many grafts were growing, how would you know if all of the grafts placed on the whole head grew and if they grew normally. It seems like a lot of guess work to me. This is no offence to Dr. Cole, his patients look very good. I just don't know how these numbers can be put out there without a more accurate way to see what's really going on.

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      • Winston
        Moderator
        • Mar 2009
        • 943

        #4
        I think what Dr. Cole says makes sense as far as the time it takes to become proficient at something.

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        • CIT_Girl
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 302

          #5
          J_B_Davis, you asked an interesting question which I passed along to Dr. Cole. Here is his response:

          的 agree with the concerns regarding yield. There have been a handful of studies looking at the yield with strip grafts. You've pointed out many of the technical difficulties associated with these studies. They all depend on accurate counts before and after surgery. In some instances, I am fairly confident that the data has been inaccurate. Yield studies are extremely difficult to carry out and there are many points where experimental error may occur.

          As I stated, I carried out the yield study only at the urge of some strip proponents. I was never concerned with the yield because, as you noted, all you really need to do is look at the area several months after the procedure. It is pretty obvious when the yield is good and even more so when the yield is poor. If I had looked at the area and noted a poor yield back in 2003, I would have been far more cautious in performing FUE. The yields were certainly quite good from the beginning and, in my opinion, the results were superior to strip surgery in almost all cases. About 5% to 10% of the early cases of FUE needed some adjustments in the procedure and, more importantly, in the equipment to ensure outstanding consistent results. It took some time to develop techniques that would create outstanding yields in essentially all patients (other than those of African descent). I think there is still some room for improvement with regard to FUE in patients of African descent. This is an important goal because these individuals are prone to wearing their hair short or tight and are therefore particularly concerned with the possibility of a strip scar. Interestingly, those of African descent do not develop white or hypopigmented spotting as their melanocytes seem to migrate into the extraction sites and repopulate the areas with pigment.

          When you look at yield studies done to date, you see a wide variety of results. In one study, the investigator found that his strip produced grafts produced a yield of 138%. One might ask how someone could get 138 hairs to grow for every 100 hairs that were transplanted? The answer is not that he used magic grafts. Rather, the answer is that his study was flawed. One of two things occurred: he may not have counted all of the hairs in the grafts that he transplanted, or he counted more hairs than actually grew. Perhaps he counted some of the growing hairs twice. Regardless, his findings emphasis the inherent flaws with studying hair yield. Counting hairs, I mean accurately counting all the hairs, is very difficult. Some studies with strip grafts and higher densities above 20 grafts per square centimeter suggest lower yield in the 70% to 82% range, while others suggests yields of 100%. The wide range of results suggests that the only study that would be of value requires a higher number of patients, accurate data collection, and proper statistical analysis.

          You point out another flaw of yield studies. No one has ever counted all the hairs that were transplanted. You may indeed find that in one square centimeter, the yield was 90%, but in the adjacent square centimeter the yield might by 70%. No one has ever looked at the entire recipient area so you are right to be suspicious.

          In my own yield study, the number of patients was far too small to completely trust the data. It is not statistically significant, but then all yield studies done with strips are statistically insignificant as well, because the study population was too small.

          Yields from properly performed FUE are quite good. There is no reason for anyone to claim that properly performed strip procedures produce a higher yield. There are no good studies with FUE or strip surgery that have looked at the yield. As you point out, yields are generally measured simply by evaluating the growth. This is an excellent observation.

          In order to set up a ratio comparing the cost per hair of two grafts containing a different number of hairs. For example, if you look at a graft obtained by strip surgery, they average is almost always 2 hairs per graft and, with FUE, the average is 3 hairs per graft. If you state that the cost per graft for FUE is $8.00 per graft, then you can solve for the equivalent cost per hair for a strip graft with the following formula:

          x dollar per graft/2 hair per graft = $8.00 per graft/3 hairs per graft, which simplifies to x/2 = 8/3 or $5.33. This means that a graft costing $8.00 each and averaging 3 hairs each is equivalent to a $5.33 graft that contains 2 hairs in terms of cost per hair. In other words, 5.33/2 = 8/3. Both equal $2.66/hair. This means that a strip graft costing more than 5.33 each, is a poor value and you will get a better deal from an FUE graft. A strip graft costing less than 5.33 each is a good value in terms of the cost per hair, but you need to determine whether the strip scar is worth the better value in terms of the cost per hair."

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          • J_B_Davis
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 409

            #6
            Thank you for the detailed reply Dr. Cole. So I guess the answer is that no one really knows the true yield of any type of hair transplant procedure so doctors making yield claims from either side of the argument don't have accurate data to make specific claims. Perhaps people should concentrate more on how they look and feel after a hair transplant then on how many of their grafts actually grew?

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            • KeepTheHair
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1215

              #7
              That is a really good video and makes me gain a ton of respect for Dr. Cole.

              If I had to go for surgery...he would be the guy!

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              • sannu123
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 4

                #8
                Originally posted by J_B_Davis
                Thank you for the detailed reply Dr. Cole. So I guess the answer is that no one really knows the true yield of any type of hair transplant procedure so doctors making yield claims from either side of the argument don't have accurate data to make specific claims. Perhaps people should concentrate more on how they look and feel after a hair transplant then on how many of their grafts actually grew?
                Hi friends,,,,it is so goos informative post,,,,I think it is very harmful suggestion in this site,,,,thanks for share with us,,,,,,
                Good luck !!!!!!

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                • Jimbo
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Having watcjed the video i realized that Dr Cole is really worth being praised. That video has changed my overview about hair transplantation. Thanks!

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                  • Mr. 4000
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 288

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CIT_Girl
                    J_B_Davis, you asked an interesting question which I passed along to Dr. Cole. Here is his response:

                    的 agree with the concerns regarding yield. There have been a handful of studies looking at the yield with strip grafts. You've pointed out many of the technical difficulties associated with these studies. They all depend on accurate counts before and after surgery. In some instances, I am fairly confident that the data has been inaccurate. Yield studies are extremely difficult to carry out and there are many points where experimental error may occur.

                    As I stated, I carried out the yield study only at the urge of some strip proponents. I was never concerned with the yield because, as you noted, all you really need to do is look at the area several months after the procedure. It is pretty obvious when the yield is good and even more so when the yield is poor. If I had looked at the area and noted a poor yield back in 2003, I would have been far more cautious in performing FUE. The yields were certainly quite good from the beginning and, in my opinion, the results were superior to strip surgery in almost all cases. About 5% to 10% of the early cases of FUE needed some adjustments in the procedure and, more importantly, in the equipment to ensure outstanding consistent results. It took some time to develop techniques that would create outstanding yields in essentially all patients (other than those of African descent). I think there is still some room for improvement with regard to FUE in patients of African descent. This is an important goal because these individuals are prone to wearing their hair short or tight and are therefore particularly concerned with the possibility of a strip scar. Interestingly, those of African descent do not develop white or hypopigmented spotting as their melanocytes seem to migrate into the extraction sites and repopulate the areas with pigment.

                    When you look at yield studies done to date, you see a wide variety of results. In one study, the investigator found that his strip produced grafts produced a yield of 138%. One might ask how someone could get 138 hairs to grow for every 100 hairs that were transplanted? The answer is not that he used magic grafts. Rather, the answer is that his study was flawed. One of two things occurred: he may not have counted all of the hairs in the grafts that he transplanted, or he counted more hairs than actually grew. Perhaps he counted some of the growing hairs twice. Regardless, his findings emphasis the inherent flaws with studying hair yield. Counting hairs, I mean accurately counting all the hairs, is very difficult. Some studies with strip grafts and higher densities above 20 grafts per square centimeter suggest lower yield in the 70% to 82% range, while others suggests yields of 100%. The wide range of results suggests that the only study that would be of value requires a higher number of patients, accurate data collection, and proper statistical analysis.

                    You point out another flaw of yield studies. No one has ever counted all the hairs that were transplanted. You may indeed find that in one square centimeter, the yield was 90%, but in the adjacent square centimeter the yield might by 70%. No one has ever looked at the entire recipient area so you are right to be suspicious.

                    In my own yield study, the number of patients was far too small to completely trust the data. It is not statistically significant, but then all yield studies done with strips are statistically insignificant as well, because the study population was too small.

                    Yields from properly performed FUE are quite good. There is no reason for anyone to claim that properly performed strip procedures produce a higher yield. There are no good studies with FUE or strip surgery that have looked at the yield. As you point out, yields are generally measured simply by evaluating the growth. This is an excellent observation.

                    In order to set up a ratio comparing the cost per hair of two grafts containing a different number of hairs. For example, if you look at a graft obtained by strip surgery, they average is almost always 2 hairs per graft and, with FUE, the average is 3 hairs per graft. If you state that the cost per graft for FUE is $8.00 per graft, then you can solve for the equivalent cost per hair for a strip graft with the following formula:

                    x dollar per graft/2 hair per graft = $8.00 per graft/3 hairs per graft, which simplifies to x/2 = 8/3 or $5.33. This means that a graft costing $8.00 each and averaging 3 hairs each is equivalent to a $5.33 graft that contains 2 hairs in terms of cost per hair. In other words, 5.33/2 = 8/3. Both equal $2.66/hair. This means that a strip graft costing more than 5.33 each, is a poor value and you will get a better deal from an FUE graft. A strip graft costing less than 5.33 each is a good value in terms of the cost per hair, but you need to determine whether the strip scar is worth the better value in terms of the cost per hair."
                    I agree the entire industry has benefited from the production of misinformation, the that won't change as long as people keep reaching into their wallets.

                    It is business, so what ever works

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