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  • AlmostUndone
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 127

    #31
    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Just to add to what I've already said, I do believe there is some regeneration.
    Because you are not using any hair-by-hair analysis to motivate your belief, I feel asking, can there be substance to your belief? (You are perhaps not too familiar and/or interested in the hair-by-hair analysis I made)

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    • gc83uk
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1340

      #32
      I did my own analysis numerous times and found a slight increase in overall hair. That was good enough for me.

      I'm of the opinion of the overall net increase of hair after using HASCI in MY situation was 20%, which I documented years ago.

      Bare in mind even if it was 0%, I would still go back for more procedures, for the reasons I previously mentioned.

      How is that for you?

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      • AlmostUndone
        Senior Member
        • May 2015
        • 127

        #33
        Originally posted by gc83uk
        I did my own analysis numerous times and found a slight increase in overall hair. That was good enough for me.

        I'm of the opinion of the overall net increase of hair after using HASCI in MY situation was 20%, which I documented years ago.

        Bare in mind even if it was 0%, I would still go back for more procedures, for the reasons I previously mentioned.

        How is that for you?
        Wasn't that tricky, to unambiguously reach a verdict, with over 1500 grafts in one procedure? In 2013 you noted:

        Originally posted by gc83uk
        this brings me back to my first point, there are so many unknown variables. We've done the best with what we had to work with.


        Anyways...

        In my study, I counted each and every hair extracted, and each and every hair implanted, and without having had previous procedures complicating it further. And to minimize unknown variables: only 800 grafts on my part, which is not far off from what you had asked:

        Originally posted by gc83uk
        I think you know this, but there is no chance that the regeneration is 85%, I think you're hanging on and hoping that somehow regeneration continues for months after the procedure!

        The only way of putting this whole thing to bed is for someone with excellent photography skills and able to document properly doing 500 grafts at Hasci.

        Finding 500 grafts is not ten times more difficult than the 50 graft test we all wanted, I know Hasci accept small procedures. Just don't tell Hasci about the analysis. Job done.

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        • gc83uk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1340

          #34
          Are you reading through what I wrote in 2013 just to prove a point? If it makes you feel better then I'm happy for you.

          You've already admitted your analysis wasn't perfect. To me it is worthless, knowing what I already know and what I have recently said.

          I moved on sometime ago from worrying about the regeneration, regardless of if it does or not, I don't really care much for that aspect, no matter what you say here.

          I sincerely wish you the best of luck with your hair loss.

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          • AlmostUndone
            Senior Member
            • May 2015
            • 127

            #35
            I think the question to ask is, whose study is better / more solid. It's not a question of perfection, but whether your analysis was as comprehensive as my own study.

            A big number of ex-patients and potential future patients have seen my study. Let's go ask them if it's worthless, and where they have seen a more comprehensive one.

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            • gc83uk
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1340

              #36
              My dad is bigger than your dad, are you really going there?

              I've already told you I'm not interested in your analysis. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

              Have a good one

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              • AlmostUndone
                Senior Member
                • May 2015
                • 127

                #37
                The very reason I made this analysis was because of yours; because many had looked at your analysis, and still couldn't make up their mind on it.

                It's hard to go by an analysis that's apparently not online. I take it that the one Arashi made was for another procedure.

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1340

                  #38
                  Look, I'm happy for you if you feel like you can now make up your mind, that is obviously a great thing. Where are you going with this?

                  Arashi had already said years ago there was no regeneration and you are saying as much, I don't know what we've all learnt from your analysis.

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                  • AlmostUndone
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 127

                    #39
                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Look, I'm happy for you if you feel like you can now make up your mind, that is obviously a great thing. Where are you going with this?
                    I like to hear people's opinions, whether my work shows anything new, whether it doesn't, whether perhaps I've done a poor job.

                    Learnt from my analysis? currently there isn't any other analysis online with proper photographs. (Links gone missing?)

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                    • gc83uk
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1340

                      #40
                      Right OK. Well I don't think it shows anything new at all, but full marks for effort.

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                      • caddarik79
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 496

                        #41
                        As gc83uk said, he has moved on.
                        The full analysis was great but worthless if we cannot go to Court with it and sue hasci if they indeed lied and keep being liars about their offer. If we cannot bring them down with your so solid proofs and get all indemnised then what?

                        If it brings a great painless scarless result, people will still consider it (myself included ).

                        If you are sure to demolish them, go to Court, trial for concrete results.
                        If you do not plan then move on and let's hope the real deal happens soon to cure us.

                        In the meantime my concern is how do we bridge time until Tsuji or any other impressive hair multiplication company brings it to the market?

                        Could an HST or FUE stop us from beneficiating new ways of curing like Replicel? Is it compatible? Or are we ruining our scalps and then being future uneligible candidates?

                        Now is important! What do you do NOW?

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                        • AlmostUndone
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 127

                          #42
                          Surprisingly, Deborah Smaal, the doctor who did my procedure, no longer works at HASCI. She started her own clinic apparently 2 years ago. (google it.) I wanted to know if she still practices Dr. Gho's stem cell treatment there. The answer was no. "Besides a very nice treatment is there no benefit in the donor area. Just a very nice treatment, in very nice setting with a very good team." Why would you quit HASCI and suddenly start offering an inferior FUE treatment?

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                          • caddarik79
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 496

                            #43
                            Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                            Surprisingly, Deborah Smaal, the doctor who did my procedure, no longer works at HASCI. She started her own clinic apparently 2 years ago. (google it.) I wanted to know if she still practices Dr. Gho's stem cell treatment there. The answer was no. "Besides a very nice treatment is there no benefit in the donor area. Just a very nice treatment, in very nice setting with a very good team." Why would you quit HASCI and suddenly start offering an inferior FUE treatment?
                            She probably cannot / is not authorized to leave and offer THEIR method!

                            But still, it's weird!
                            I know that she got kids, it could be a reason why... wanted to work being her own boss to cope with family life.

                            Still would be interesting to know if she can say something! (I guess no, if she ever attacks HASCI, she will get sued)

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                            • Laptop
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2022
                              • 1

                              #44
                              Long time lurker

                              Is anyone considering gho these days? I’m thinking of going and have a procedure done this year. I’ve been a big gho advocate in this forum and still am. The fact that there’s some regeneration and no scars is really a deal breaker for me.

                              If there’s anyone interested in going together and document our procedure let me know here.

                              As for any tips, as. Long time expert and as someone who got really ****ed up by dht blockers and is scared of taking anything I managed to slow it down severely I’m still nw2 I attributed this being gluten free and being on nofap….though it is still slowly thinning just much less than before. So if u haven’t tried profecía or don’t want to. try a Non inflsmmatory diet and nofap see if that helps. It’s difficult but damn for me it works as soon as I don’t follow these two things my head starts itching and u know what that means,,,

                              Sent from my iPhone.

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