RU58841 Warning

[James Bond]

A low percentage of people have experienced heart pressure/pain and/or shortness of breath after using RU58841 after as little as one week of topical usage.

Although rare, if you experience heart discomfort, pressure, and/or pain, discontinue use immediately, as in rare cases it can cause heart failure (it's a similar drug to nilutamide).

Interstitial pneumonititis is a more common side effect of using DHT-blockers in the class of RU58841 and nilutamide. This is a serious lung condition, which can be triggered by certain medications (among other things). If left untreated, it can lead to permanent scarring of the lungs, such that you can no longer breath and can possibly die. However, in the vast majority of cases, the damage is fully reversed within 6 to 12 months of discontinuation of the drug. In severe cases, you'll need to take prednisolone along with discontinuing the drug.

The following warning is printed on the box of nilutamide and should also be heeded when taking RU58841:

"ALERT: U.S. Boxed Warning
Interstitial pneumonitis:

Interstitial pneumonitis has been reported in 2% of patients in controlled clinical trials in patients exposed to nilutamide. A small study in Japanese patients showed that 17% of patients developed interstitial pneumonitis. Reports of interstitial changes, including pulmonary fibrosis that led to hospitalization and death, have been reported rarely in postmarketing. Symptoms included exertional dyspnea, cough, chest pain, and fever. X-rays showed interstitial or alveolo-interstitial changes, and pulmonary function tests revealed a restrictive pattern with decreased diffusing capacity of lungs for carbon monoxide. Most cases occurred within the first 3 months of treatment with nilutamide, and most reversed with discontinuation of therapy. Perform a routine chest x-ray prior to initiating treatment with nilutamide. Consider baseline pulmonary function tests. Instruct patients to report any new or worsening shortness of breath that they experience while on nilutamide. If symptoms occur, immediately discontinue nilutamide until it can be determined if the symptoms are drug related."

More information of this condition and it's treatment outcomes can be found at the following link:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...00368-0046.pdf

[PaulAnds]

Thanks for this post James,

as i use RU at the moment i am in concern of side effects. I think it is a much less risk taking 10mg/day topical then 150mg or more orally. But nevertheless if i feel like having these sideeffects with my lungs i will consult a doctor.

[inbrugge]

I don't know why anyone would use this product.

I was duped into it by messages here saying that it has absolutely no side effects when used topically, because it's basically neutralized once it hits the blood stream.

I used it a low dosage topically for about 2-3 weeks, maybe every other day. Immideately, I took a massive hit to my libido (nearly impossible to get it up) and I developed gyno.

I've been off it for a year and a half, and my gyno is still present. I believe I'm very luck as my libido recovered about 75% and I haven't experienced any heart or lung side effects as far as I know. And I hope my sperm count is still good.

As for my hair, yeah, it is still thinning out. So, absolutely useless.

[PaulAnds]

I´ve never heard something like this massive effects. As i know orally DHT blocker like finasterid can effect the libido. In RU threads i´ve only read about problems with eyes (sunken eye effect).. Maybe some of your sideeffects were psychosomatic.

[telogen]

I've been doing RU continuously for almost 3 years. Majority high dosages 100mg+.
I've only experienced drop in libido and weaker ejeculation, which is expected when blocking your DHT. Heart failure and lung scarring sounds like pure scaremongering from guys too afraid of using the drug.

[Helpneeded]

Hi guys,

After taking Ru 3 times I seem to be experiencing cheat pains/discomfort, shortness or breath, fatigue and sternum/back aches. Symptoms seem to come and go. I rush to hospital twice on the weekend and did an EGC, ECHO, xray and blood test all pass all test. I have no history of anxiety or stress or hypochondriac nature …or any family history of heart problems … I also visited a cardiologist and he couldn't find anything... which seems to be a theme with other customer who've taken RU. I want to ensure I don't cause any long term heart problems, so I'm writing to here to ask and warn people who have been on or thinking about taking RU : (….

HELP---I really do need help here, can any one who has taken RU advise or someone in the medical field familiar with Androgen blockers advise how I can remedy the side effects asap as I don't want any long term health issues.

[medicalknowhow]

I've been doing RU continuously for almost 3 years. Majority high dosages 100mg+.
I've only experienced drop in libido and weaker ejeculation, which is expected when blocking your DHT. Heart failure and lung scarring sounds like pure scaremongering from guys too afraid of using the drug.

You're a moron. I dissected cadavers for six years at a research institute in Sydney just to give you an idea. "Guys too afraid of using the drug" -- please don't breed. RU is one of the most dangerous drugs in its class, hence it was immediately banned, because having it in a household setting where children could put their hands in their mouth after touching "daddies head" would have entirely unknown consequences. Even when symptoms are silent or "only libido" it is still blocking the respiration of cells. You clearly have no idea how cardiomyocytes work or what they are, so please, punch yourself in the face. Yes, RU directly causes "most likely" irreversible heart damage for which there is no treatment, because it is not mechanical ischemia. Once you alter the function of the heart at a chemical level in such an acute fashion with such a strong compound, there is no mechanism for it to "bounce back". You can take RU at 50mg per day for years and not know you're killing heart cells and altering ventricular function, or you can have a genetic expression that hides the damage you've done. For saying what you said, you are a waste of space and you know bugger all about human physiology. Kindly go F yourself.