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  • baldkiwi
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 19

    #46
    Some of these posts have me scared, but from what I understand, all the problems people are reporting were due to taking it internally? Can anyone confirm this?
    I was looking at trying it topically, I have lost alot of my hair since i was 18, and now in my mid 30's. I have no idea if it will give any results, but im keen to try it.

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    • Junichiro Andy
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2020
      • 12

      #47
      It's my pleasure

      Originally posted by Baldyspen
      Hi junichiro andy
      Just want to say thanks for the tip about the hibiscus and Hawthorne tea ... been on this everyday for around a month now and just took a BP reading yesterday of 127/74 pulse rate 82 .. which for me is a massive improvement in a short time ..also want to add that im also now taking a cold pressed organic CBD oil at 40mg a day and garlic supplement every day too ..if i find any other good supplements ill be in touch ..cheers buddy
      :hi Baldyspen, thanks for calling out. I am happy that hawthorn and hibiscus tea work well for you. It has worked very well for me too. My BP is usually maintained at 130+/80+. At times it could even go down to 120+/70+. Hibiscus and hawthorn are god send. Do help others who are suffering from ru58841 with this remedy. Besides BP, this remedy is also very good for lowering heart rate. My heart rate used to be 70s to 80s per min. Now it averages 60s per min. Another indicator that this tea could counter ru58841. God bless you buddy

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      • doke
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1475

        #48
        Look guys there are people that have genuine side affects from Minoxidil and Finasteride the latter i get some so a topical like Ru starting low dose say 2% is better for me although i have used 5% i got more sides with finasteride but very low so it is a matter of choice and totally up to you.
        Now i am also on other thins for my health and these said to be safe but come with side affects and as said i would be happy to use topical progesterone which i have done that was infused with minoxidil i have tried topical spironolactone as well most of these are off label in uk and so is RU and Eucapil antiandrogen but they for me are worth trying.

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        • JdbGI
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2021
          • 3

          #49
          Originally posted by Junichiro Andy
          Hi pixie, my name is Andy from Singapore. I am surprised when I read your post. I had very similar experience as you. I bought ru58841 on 22nd September. Been using it for about 2 weeks. Then last night on 5th October, while I was about to have sex with my wife, my dick went numb. The usual feeling of arousal was gone. I attempted to achieve an erection and it would go limp before I could penetrate. This happened a few times last night, causing lots of unhappiness between me and my wife. Besides, I've been having headache plus dizziness for the past few days. Like you, I was also diagnosed with hypertension last week - 2nd October. Doctor was surprised as my blood pressure has been normal all along. The latest blood pressure taken was in June this year and it was below 130. I'm a fire fighter, age 36, and I have been healthy all along. After using 5% ru58841, things had been pretty bad. The first side effects I had was some breathing problems. It's like someone pushed me into a low oxygen chamber. There was no chest pain but the feeling of chest discomfort couldn't be ignored. Compared to side effects from finasteride, ru58841 is on another level. Hope we can be friends and hope we can talk and share our experiences soon
          Hi Andy,

          It is reassuring to find someone else who is having the exact same symptoms as myself. After a couple of weeks of using RU, and one application where I likely applied too much, I am experiencing higher blood pressure, fast and irregular heartbeat, and random bouts of dizziness throughout the day. These symptoms naturally have me worried, and I am hoping for them to dissipate soon. It has been 5 days since I ceased my usage.

          During my last application, I applied the solution and with 5-10 minutes felt my heart rate climb up to 150 bpm alongside an extreme bout of dizziness. I thought I was dying. I immediately had a shower in an attempt to rid my hair of any remaining RU.

          The symptoms seem to come and go, although the elevated heart rate and high blood pressure are seemingly persistent.

          It would be great to connect so we can talk further about our experiences.

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          • doke
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1475

            #50
            The Systems you describe is what Minoxidil side effects are not an antiandrogen.

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            • JdbGI
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2021
              • 3

              #51
              Originally posted by doke
              The Systems you describe is what Minoxidil side effects are not an antiandrogen.
              I have not yet tried minoxidil, although I recognise the overlap in the symptoms I described and minoxidil sides.

              It seems like a small minority of people have experienced similar to to what I have mentioned.

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              • throwaway5700
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 10

                #52
                Hey man,

                I am in the exact same shoes as we speak right now. Shortness of breath (comes and goes, debilitating sometimes, barely noticeable other times), mild chest pains, weird numbness and cold sensations down arms, tender shoulder blade (left).

                How did you get on? Did you improve at all?

                Would really love to hear back from you my man.. please.

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                • throwaway5700
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 10

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Pixie
                  Hi, I'm a user from *** who also used RU and got chest pains, breathing problems and high BP. At first I had NO IDEA what was happening to me until I saw a post over there from a user with my same symptoms. I stopped immediately, and later saw this thread, and now I feel validated in my actions. During the peak of my symptoms, I was afraid I was going to die. I never wanted to be alone and I was afraid I would stop breathing in my sleep.

                  -chest/back pains (sharp and extended to both arms at its worst)
                  -bad breathing (felt like I couldn't breathe in a good full breath.)
                  -weird flavors in mouth (sweet, bitter, metallic)
                  -high BP
                  -night sweats
                  -cold hands and feet
                  -weakness, especially shoulders
                  -acid reflux

                  My sides persisted for MONTHS after I stopped, but they've been very slowly getting better. My chest pains have receded greatly, and most of my breaths are satisfactory now. Still get strange tastes in my mouth, but they aren't as severe either. Don't have any of the other symptoms anymore besides high BP.... IT DOES GET BETTER. My doctor prescribed me omeprazole, which I feel has contributed to my recovery. I'm also an otherwise healthy man in his 20's. I exercise a lot and eat reasonably well.

                  Oh and I almost forgot the most important part of this post:

                  My girlfriend caught the same breathing symptom

                  She was probably exposed to it because we share a bed. I noticed she was occasionally gasping for a breath the same way I would, and asked her about it. She described the exact sensations I felt. I don't know if she shared any of the other symptoms, but she recovered quickly. We did not have covid. I tested at the height of my symptoms.


                  While it's HIGHLY effective against hair loss: RU is a dangerous drug that can kill not only yourself, but the people around you.
                  Hey man,

                  I am in the exact same shoes as we speak right now. Shortness of breath (comes and goes, debilitating sometimes, barely noticeable other times), mild chest pains, weird numbness and cold sensations down arms, tender shoulder blade (left).

                  How did you get on? Did you improve at all?

                  Would really love to hear back from you my man.. please get back to me if you receive this notification.

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                  • Shaka75
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 4

                    #54


                    This is really concerning to read

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                    • throwaway5700
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 10

                      #55
                      Originally posted by medicalknowhow
                      Hi brazil123; hope you are doing ok -- My "friend's rat" accidentally ingested a small amount of RU but didn't think anything of it, due to the short half-life (this was a silly conclusion as once it reaches "all associated" receptors on a systemic level, nobody has data on how fast the damage is done to heart tissue and how severe it is) he was also using 1ml per day at 5% concentration for 2 years... Within a few days of the accident, his blood pressure went into the hypertensive zone and never recovered. Heart palpitations made sleep extremely difficult from that day on into perpetuity. He didn't realise it was due to the accident until having a "lightbulb" moment a week after he was not able to sleep, and had a dental surgery appointment where they informed him his blood pressure was way above his usual (he was always 117-124/78 before this, every time, like clockwork and 138-147/94 from then on after) There was no resolution and the damage appears to be permanent. He was in perfect health with mandatory physicals every 12 months due to occupation, right up unto the accident. His resting heart rate immediately changed from 52 to 60 and stayed at that new level. Did your heart condition continue for the past few months? I'm assuming yes, as the last person I discussed the case with has had heart palpitations for the 6 months following cessation of the RU and no sign of improvement, they merely grew accustomed to their palpitations. People don't believe it can do this because they're uninformed. Heart palpitations are well reported at varying doses, and now the cases where seemingly permanent damage occurs have been made apparent.
                      Hey mate,

                      Are you able to update me on your case?

                      Have you improved at all?

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                      • throwaway5700
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 10

                        #56
                        Originally posted by JdbGI
                        Hi Andy,

                        It is reassuring to find someone else who is having the exact same symptoms as myself. After a couple of weeks of using RU, and one application where I likely applied too much, I am experiencing higher blood pressure, fast and irregular heartbeat, and random bouts of dizziness throughout the day. These symptoms naturally have me worried, and I am hoping for them to dissipate soon. It has been 5 days since I ceased my usage.

                        During my last application, I applied the solution and with 5-10 minutes felt my heart rate climb up to 150 bpm alongside an extreme bout of dizziness. I thought I was dying. I immediately had a shower in an attempt to rid my hair of any remaining RU.

                        The symptoms seem to come and go, although the elevated heart rate and high blood pressure are seemingly persistent.

                        It would be great to connect so we can talk further about our experiences.
                        Hey mate,

                        Are you able to update me on your current situation and recovery?

                        I would seriously love to hear from you as I too am experiencing a very long and debilitating recovery from ru58841.

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                        • JdbGI
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2021
                          • 3

                          #57
                          Originally posted by throwaway5700
                          Hey mate,

                          Are you able to update me on your current situation and recovery?

                          I would seriously love to hear from you as I too am experiencing a very long and debilitating recovery from ru58841.
                          Hi there,

                          First off a massive apology for my slow reply - I appreciate how scared and alone you can feel when going through these symptoms.

                          I hope I can reassure you at least with my progression. I completely stopped RU, while continued with minoxidil and finasteride. The symptoms lingered on and off for about 2 months, but I am completely back to normal now. No more blood pressure spikes or random dizziness, apart from the very occasional occurrence which could easily be attributed to something else.

                          I suggest you follow a healthy lifestyle - eat well and exercise, and avoid RU. The anxiety that results after your episode contributes greatly to the subsequent ones. I am sure you will return to your former baseline too.

                          Best wishes,
                          J

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                          • Lee12345
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2022
                            • 14

                            #58
                            Same issue here.

                            Originally posted by Baldyspen
                            Hi medical know how
                            I used RU for only 4 days but now have high blood pressure and heart palpitations..you sound like you have some experience on this compound compared to other's on here ...is there anything can be done? Its been 2 months and symptoms still there maybe slighty less ..if you had the symptoms what would you do ??
                            Any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks
                            How are things now? Have you recovered? Thanks.

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                            • Lee12345
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2022
                              • 14

                              #59
                              Originally posted by medicalknowhow
                              Hi brazil123; hope you are doing ok -- My "friend's rat" accidentally ingested a small amount of RU but didn't think anything of it, due to the short half-life (this was a silly conclusion as once it reaches "all associated" receptors on a systemic level, nobody has data on how fast the damage is done to heart tissue and how severe it is) he was also using 1ml per day at 5% concentration for 2 years... Within a few days of the accident, his blood pressure went into the hypertensive zone and never recovered. Heart palpitations made sleep extremely difficult from that day on into perpetuity. He didn't realise it was due to the accident until having a "lightbulb" moment a week after he was not able to sleep, and had a dental surgery appointment where they informed him his blood pressure was way above his usual (he was always 117-124/78 before this, every time, like clockwork and 138-147/94 from then on after) There was no resolution and the damage appears to be permanent. He was in perfect health with mandatory physicals every 12 months due to occupation, right up unto the accident. His resting heart rate immediately changed from 52 to 60 and stayed at that new level. Did your heart condition continue for the past few months? I'm assuming yes, as the last person I discussed the case with has had heart palpitations for the 6 months following cessation of the RU and no sign of improvement, they merely grew accustomed to their palpitations. People don't believe it can do this because they're uninformed. Heart palpitations are well reported at varying doses, and now the cases where seemingly permanent damage occurs have been made apparent.
                              Hi there,

                              How are your symptoms now? Thanks

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                              • Lee12345
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2022
                                • 14

                                #60
                                Originally posted by brazil123
                                Hello “helpneeded”! Did you find and solution? I would like to know if there’s any news on your case, because i have been experiencing some chest discomfort and also hypertension. Please contact me and lets help each other. I can send you my e-mail if you want to
                                Hi there, did you ever get a response to this? And how are your own symptoms now? Thanks

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