FUE into scar

[JustShaveIt]

You're not telling me those few hairs he had on the top of his head at 33 in that photo are the only hairs he got after 3 transplants...!
He said he was one of those few guys for whom the HTs didn't work, which means he must have lost the transplanted hairs too in addition to the DHT-prone hairs. I was wondering how the HTs failed

The hairs on the top of my head are most likely the hairs that are left from the HT. Most if not all of my natural hair that was in that area had fallen out over time because I stopped using propecia. I want to clarify something. When I mean it didn't work I wasn't saying that the transplant of hair was a failure. Because the transplanting the hair from donor to recipient was successful. What I mean by didn't work, is 10 years later I am in a far worse situation than I was prior to the HT. Currently I can't shave my head or cut it down with clip 3 or 4 where as before I could have just shaved it. I don't have that option anymore and it's something that I will have to live with the rest of my life. This is why I recently did the fue into the scar, so I can cut my hair shorter so the balding area on top doesn't look as bad as if the hair was longer.

What about Derma rolling? Did you try that with Rogaine? Have you tried any natural remedies?

I think derma rolling is the same as laser therapy.. utter bullshit. I have not tried rogaine because I do not like the side effects it may cause. I have not tried any specific "natural" remedies because I believe that hormones with taking a pill or drinking something. You look at all the supplements that are suppose to "increase" testosterone. The only thing that increases testosterone is testosterone.

This post isn't about whether the ht was successful or not because at the end of the day I am not happy with the appearance and that is all that matters. I can try to correct the way it looks however I have to be very strategic while doing it. I was uninformed and uneducated about HT in my mid 20s. Throw in depression, desperation and a bit of savings some will do most anything when in complete denial. I was one of those people and this post may change someones view if they're at the same stage I was.

Although the purpose of this post is really to connect with those individuals who may also be in a similar situation as I am and are contemplating their next of "what now?". This is why I wanted to document the process of fue into the scar, how the scar will look like with almost shaved head and shorter hair. When you look online for photos of fue into scar with shaved head, there are no photos. It's always photos with hair grown out for 5 or 6 months which does not provide anything.

[Rizaan]

The transplanted hairs in that photo look very thin. So are those all the hairs you got transplanted (3 times)? That's shocking. Were you a diffuse thinner?
I presume you're in a worse situation now because you were destined to be a NW 6/7 and hence lost all the DHT-prone hairs (correct me if I am wrong).

I am almost 21 and balding. I'm a NW2 with low hair density on the front and top of my head. Is there any suggestion you could give me? (shaving is not an option for me). I use rogaine and will start derma rolling soon (I've seen results and they're positive). I also use Ketoconazole shampoo and that's slowed down my Hair loss. I am considering a Hair Transplant in about a year. Is there any suggestions you could give me?

[JustShaveIt]

shaving is not an option for me.

Why is shaving not an option for you? I would only advocate shaving the head if someone is norwood 3 through 7. There are people that will say that you can make a good frontal hair line with HT if you have NW3, but HT results and one's baldness are relative. What I mean by relative is I've seen many photos on this website and others of individuals freaking out about their hair and when I look at their photos I wish that I could be in their shoes with what they have.

will start derma rolling soon (I've seen results and they're positive).

Don't fall for bs like derma rolling. I remember growing up my dad would go to "hair clinics" to have laser therapy and other shit done to his head. He wasted his time and always got his money back. It's about hormones and nothing more.

I am considering a Hair Transplant in about a year. Is there any suggestions you could give me?

I'd suggest waiting a few more years till you're at least 25. It is hard to anticipate how much hair loss you may have throughout your 20's. However if you're hell bent on getting a HT, get fue and spend a few extra bucks so you don't have a scar from ear to ear like myself.

Remember hair doctors will never refuse payment for HT.

Its tough losing your hair at that age and it was the same age I started noticing myself. However I wasn't proactive and finding out more information about HT the pros and cons. in roughly 2003-2005 FUE was either unheard of of very new at least to me.

[DAVE52]

I am almost 21 and balding. I'm a NW2 with low hair density on the front and top of my head. Is there any suggestion you could give me? (shaving is not an option for me).

Pics ?

Buzz cut ?

Shaving is always an option , we don't know it until we do it

[Rizaan]

I think Derma rolling works, at least for someone my age. I've seen people post positive results. I'll give it a try since i'm desperate.

I'm a NW2 with low hair density. IF I get a HT, I fear i will lose my existing hairs from shockloss especially because I don't take propecia. Is that what happened to you? I've also read somewhere that guys with a "V" hairline have a much higher chance of going NW6/7, and I don't think mine is a V, it's more like a U, but it could turn into a V, idk. My father, 59, is a NW 2.5, so I don't know why the actual f*ck I started balding and that too this early. Even on my mother's side, her brother (55) is a NW 4 or something. Are these any indications of how much hair I will lose in the future? I know guys in their 20s are not recommended to get HTs, but spending one's youth like this is Hell.

Also, why shouldn't I get an FUT? I've heard it's better (as long as the scar is minimal) and that I can get FUE done much later when I'm older. (please answer all questions)

[JustShaveIt]

Shaving is always an option , we don't know it until we do it

^^^ Words of wisdom

I think Derma rolling works, at least for someone my age. I've seen people post positive results. I'll give it a try since i'm desperate.

I'm very skeptical when it comes to "gadgets" that "promote" hair "growth". You think derma rolling works because you want it to work for you. I think about it this way. How does poking tiny holes into you head cause hairs to grow?

I think Derma rolling works, at least for someone my age. I've seen people post positive results. I'll give it a try since i'm desperate.

I'm a NW2 with low hair density. IF I get a HT, I fear i will lose my existing hairs from shockloss especially because I don't take propecia. Is that what happened to you? I've also read somewhere that guys with a "V" hairline have a much higher chance of going NW6/7, and I don't think mine is a V, it's more like a U, but it could turn into a V, idk. My father, 59, is a NW 2.5, so I don't know why the actual f*ck I started balding and that too this early. Even on my mother's side, her brother (55) is a NW 4 or something. Are these any indications of how much hair I will lose in the future? I know guys in their 20s are not recommended to get HTs, but spending one's youth like this is Hell.

Also, why shouldn't I get an FUT? I've heard it's better (as long as the scar is minimal) and that I can get FUE done much later when I'm older. (please answer all questions)

I stopped talking propecia because of the side affects. So my hair continued to fall out through the rest of my 20's and into my early 30's.

My father, 59, is a NW 2.5, so I don't know why the actual f*ck I started balding and that too this early. Even on my mother's side, her brother (55) is a NW 4 or something. Are these any indications of how much hair I will lose in the future?

There are no real indications. I do know that would have been much balder than my dad with close to 100% of the hair on the top and crown gone by now. I remember seeing photos of my grand dads on both sides and from what vaguely remember they were not balding... thinning maybe but I believe that was because they were already in their 60s.

I know guys in their 20s are not recommended to get HTs, but spending one's youth like this is Hell.

Hell is relevant to individuals. I would much rather be going through your "hell" than my "hell". You can shave it and carry or stress out about something that is a natural process of life. I know it's a hard thing to go through at that age. Most of you friends probably still have full heads of hair and here's you starting to lose a little of it. Shave your head, go to the gym and get some muscle, get a few tattoos and you'll be getting mad pus sy throughout your 20's.

Also, why shouldn't I get an FUT? I've heard it's better (as long as the scar is minimal) and that I can get FUE done much later when I'm older. (please answer all questions)

The thing about "minimal scarring" from fut is that the scarring is very unpredictable. Some doctors will recommend doing scalp stretching to create elasticity. This may work for some but not for others. However when you get into your 30's you may end up in a similar situation as myself who is now trying to improve the look of my hair and scar.

I'm not telling you what to do because ultimately it is your decision. I only created this post to show others how fue into a scar will look like when they keep their hair short (clip 2 or 3). Most people keep their hair long after they've had HT's. If my post discourages individuals from going under their knife with may prevent a similar situation that I am in now, great. However I'm not telling anyone what to do or what not to do.

The irony to all of my current situation which I believe I wrote in my initial post was that throughout my teens and into my early 20s I shaved my head.



Both the following photos were when I was roughly 26-28 years old I believe I had done all my 4 HT. The ages are not exact because this is almost 13 years ago. It's very possible that i had my first HT at the age of 24 or 25 but I do not really remember.

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[Rizaan]

That is after 4 HTs? Doesn't look much tbh, how many follicles did you get transplanted?
Do you think you still have enough density on the back of your head for another FUE?

[DAVE52]

That is after 4 HTs? Doesn't look much tbh, how many follicles did you get transplanted?
Do you think you still have enough density on the back of your head for another FUE?

Im getting the impression you think getting a HT will bring your hair back to the density it was when you were a teenager and then all your issues will be resolved

[Rizaan]

Im getting the impression you think getting a HT will bring your hair back to the density it was when you were a teenager and then all your issues will be resolved

No, that is not what I think. I've seen many before/after HT photos but the result he posted after 4 HT's looks like what I'd expect after like 1.

[JustShaveIt]

That is after 4 HTs? Doesn't look much tbh, how many follicles did you get transplanted?
Do you think you still have enough density on the back of your head for another FUE?

I do not remember the exact number however I had several HTs because I did smaller sessions due to the cost. 1 graft is roughly $8 which means 500 would cost around 4k. I never had any "mega sessions because I could not afford them. Most of my session were smaller sessions. If I had to take a guess I would say approx. 1k to 1.5k grafts on the top and crown. What is left on the top and crown ARE the hairs from the HTs. It make not look like "much" but you're not taking into consideration that someone who gets 500 grafts and is a nw3 or nw4 will have a "thicker" or more "dense" result than someone who gets 500 graft and is a nw5, 6 or 7.

No, that is not what I think. I've seen many before/after HT photos but the result he posted after 4 HT's looks like what I'd expect after like 1.

The before and after photos you're looking at are most likely individuals who are more along the norwood scale you are. If you take a look at the before and after photos of norwood 5, 6 or 7 you'll notice that most of the photos the hair is longer and is comb over. My hair has always been shorter after the HT which is why it may not look "thick". I could grow my hair out longer and style it in a way that gives the appearance of "density" however that's not the look I'm going for now.

[Rizaan]

But what about all those actors and footballers like Wayne Rooney who get Hair Transplants? Their results look really good. I know this sounds Naive.
Is it that they take propecia as well? Or did they pay a lot to get really good HTs that we can't afford?

[JustShaveIt]

But what about all those actors and footballers like Wayne Rooney who get Hair Transplants? Their results look really good

But what about all those people who get HTs and the results don't look really good? Point being is that you're looking for reasons to get it and dismissing the reasons not to.

Is it that they take propecia as well? Or did they pay a lot to get really good HTs that we can't afford?

Rooney and he was not a nw 5, 6 or 7. I can only compare myself to individuals who are the same nw as me. I do not know what type of medications they take or how much money they spend on their HTs.

[Rizaan]

Someone is most likely to get a bad hairtransplant if they go to a cr*p surgeon, don't do enough research or don't take into account the future hairloss or all the above.

This guy had a HT done:https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/thread...th-Dr-Feriduni
I think he said in one of his posts he was a NW5/6 or something and his post-HT transformation looks pretty good, not to mention he said he had really good donor density for a future HT.

[JustShaveIt]

Week 3 post op

[JustShaveIt]

3 week post op continued