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  • Notgivingup2
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 123

    Advice urgently need. Joe, advice would be great please

    Hi guys, looking for some advice for my boss from work. He's currently sitting at about a NW IV A with some very early crown thinning. The overall density of his hair is poor.
    He's gone to a London clinic and has been told he has good thickness in donor area and would achieve good to excellent results with a Fue procedure of 1500 grafts.
    He has pretty good expectations in his defence, he's not expecting a NW1, but just wanting more frontal coverage and density. He seems happy to go ahead.
    But I'm concerned.Does this not seem a bit low to you guys given his current situation? He's also been advised to jump on propecia and minox asap which he's never used before, which I know is standard.
    To me, 1500 grafts would probably be a decent density hairline procedure, not an entire mid and temple frontal repair like he requires.

    Like I said guys, not for myself, but for my boss who has a lot of money and doesn't seem to have researched this at all, perhaps rushing into it.

    All thoughts are welcome.
  • Cantona
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 29

    #2
    1500 graft is as you said only for a decent hairline procedure but definitely not for such coverage as he wants. Its about 40 hair per cm if he want some decent coverage... so try to calculate directly on him and you will have your answer

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    • Notgivingup2
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 123

      #3
      Thanks for the advice.

      Any other thoughts guys?

      Joe? Your input would be gratefully received.

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      • Brilla31
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 4

        #4
        Has he tried using hair follicle stem cells to regain his hair back? I have done much research on hair follicle stem cells, and I have found that the use of hair follicle stem cells is extremely effective. Maybe he can give it a shot. I would advice you to look at the ingredients of the hair product, because even though they claim to use stem cells, the product actually has VERY LITTLE of the stem cells. One product I came across though, that uses about 80% of stem cells in their product is FolliStem. No extra additives in their hair stem cell serum. Mostly ALL stem cells. Have him give it a try. It works great and quickly for me. Hope this helps.

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        • Notgivingup2
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2016
          • 123

          #5
          ... okay, now if someone who is NOT a ****ing salesman of some bullshit snake oil could offer some relevant advice that would be welcomed.

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          • Brilla31
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 4

            #6
            I'm confused. Are u calling me a salesman? Im Only trying to help as I was desperate too for hair once

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            • Notgivingup2
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 123

              #7
              Bump for genuine comments

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              • Kashman
                Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 35

                #8
                Whatever you do please google post-finasteride syndrome before taking Propecia . I know that people who respond badly are in a minority but I was unfortunately in them . 7 months since I quit and none of the side effects have subsided for me . Worst decision of my life by a long shot .

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                • JoeTillman
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 1145

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Notgivingup2
                  Hi guys, looking for some advice for my boss from work. He's currently sitting at about a NW IV A with some very early crown thinning. The overall density of his hair is poor.
                  He's gone to a London clinic and has been told he has good thickness in donor area and would achieve good to excellent results with a Fue procedure of 1500 grafts.
                  He has pretty good expectations in his defence, he's not expecting a NW1, but just wanting more frontal coverage and density. He seems happy to go ahead.
                  But I'm concerned.Does this not seem a bit low to you guys given his current situation? He's also been advised to jump on propecia and minox asap which he's never used before, which I know is standard.
                  To me, 1500 grafts would probably be a decent density hairline procedure, not an entire mid and temple frontal repair like he requires.

                  Like I said guys, not for myself, but for my boss who has a lot of money and doesn't seem to have researched this at all, perhaps rushing into it.

                  All thoughts are welcome.
                  You're right to be concerned. 1500 grafts on a NW4A is a waste of time but before surgery he should consider the preventative options first. If he has sides or doesn't respond well in general he'll be chasing his hair loss with more surgeries.

                  He should enlist the advice of a real expert in FUE. Dr. Lupanzula is going to be in London on January 28th so you should encourage him to take advantage of this opportunity. Dr. L will give him the truth about his situation and what is and is not reasonable for his case.
                  Joe Tillman
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                  • Louish
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 337

                    #10
                    Anything under 3000 grafts for a NW4 is nonsense, even with 3000 he will need another procedure unless he is ok with low density.

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                    • Notgivingup2
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 123

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JoeTillman
                      You're right to be concerned. 1500 grafts on a NW4A is a waste of time but before surgery he should consider the preventative options first. If he has sides or doesn't respond well in general he'll be chasing his hair loss with more surgeries.

                      He should enlist the advice of a real expert in FUE. Dr. Lupanzula is going to be in London on January 28th so you should encourage him to take advantage of this opportunity. Dr. L will give him the truth about his situation and what is and is not reasonable for his case.
                      Thank you for replying joe, your response was the one I was waiting for. I agree fully with your thoughts and relayed similar concerns to my boss, but I fear he has been sold the dream.

                      The procedure is due for the 15th of Feb. He won't have even been on propecia and minox for more than a month by then, which I find totally unethical for his surgeon to think is okay.

                      Secondly, my boss is set to attend a holiday to Mexico not long after the procedure, and the surgeon failed to mention that he shouldn't expose his transplant to direct sunlight and told him it would be fine.

                      I really do fear this will end horribly, but my boss is just convinced it will all be okay and will work out. I don't think he appreciates how serious a procedure he is about to undergo.

                      I myself and still not at a hair transplant required level yet, but when I reach that level, you can bet I'd research the hell out of it, not just rush in. I think he's going with the ignorance is bliss approach.

                      I just hope by some miracle this doesn't end up the disaster I'm convinced it will be.

                      Thanks for the responses guys. Very helpful.

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