All Hope is Not Lost, After All

[KeepTheHair]

You make a good point. But remember this really is different. And it is based on real research.

Previous years were basically people rubbing x then y and then z on their scalps and calling it research.

Histogen says that the hair you grow will last you as long as the previous hairs did. It just how your genes work.


i know that there is a chance for complications...sadly thats true...i just want to believe that there won't be any.

I am very biased in this argument...i really want it to work. But i do believe there is good enough reason for us to put our faith in them

[gmonasco]

Histogen says that the hair you grow will last you as long as the previous hairs did. It just how your genes work.

I think that's an educated guess; they can't really know that at this point.

In any case, results showing a ~22% increase in hair count are promising, but that's not going to restore a full head of hair to anyone who has already experienced significant loss.

[crashul]

In any case, results showing a ~22% increase in hair count are promising, but that's not going to restore a full head of hair to anyone who has already experienced significant loss.

Yes very true. But it will help those in the miniaturization process. It would also help the very young who are not eligible for a HT. It would also help those who have insufficient hair for transplant. That's not bad for starters.

[KeepTheHair]

is the increase 25% overall hair? or where it is "applied?"

Those 2 things are very different. 25% overall wil help anyone in any norwood scale. But 25% increase when you have 5 hairs on your head wont really help lol doubt it is totally like that.



All I know for sure is. This WILL help me a lot. And I hope I can get it sooner than later..

[heresjohnny]

[QUOTE=KeepTheHair;10394]But 25% increase when you have 5 hairs on your head wont really helpQUOTE]

I read it a couple days ago, I think I read it was only injected in a in a specific area and showed that kind of increase. Correct me if I'm worng please.

[gmonasco]

But it will help those in the miniaturization process. It would also help the very young who are not eligible for a HT. It would also help those who have insufficient hair for transplant. That's not bad for starters.

Certainly that's very good and encouraging. I'm merely pointing out that even if HSC does everything claimed of it in tests so far, it's still just a step in the right direction; it isn't the magic bullet. I'm all in favor of hope, but our expectations should be realistic.

[KeepTheHair]

In think it is the magic bullet, even if it doesn't have a compounded effect if you keep applying it over and over.


If I could increase my hair by 25% that would be awesome...


Imagine if you could use it over and over again.


Also, if you combine this with other treatments...then baldness is definitely preventable today. Unlike decades ago.

[heynow1234]

lets say your a NW6 and you get a hair transplant. It wont too look great, however add a 25% increase in hairs along with the HT and things will look alot better. This sounds like it could help alot. I try not to get my hopes up about these things. However im 26 now and about a NW3, and I really feel that at the very worst by the time im in my late 30s i will be able to get my hair back with all these advances.

[KeepTheHair]

Yeah, this will totally rescue anyone in any early stages of hairloss.

At norwood 4 you probably will still need to perhaps consider a HT.


But if this product takes anyone back a full norwood scale...Thats a great thing. Especially when combined with finasteride and minoxidil

Imagine getting this done, PRP and taking finasteride and using minoxidil.

Hair can definitely be kept in our time. Also regrown

[Fixed by 35]

What you need to remember with the newer treatments being developed is the commonality between them. The gene research suggests the reason follicles are susceptible is because the wnt signals are not getting through to tell the hair to grow. Histogen bypasses this problem to deliver wnt signals. That's why it should be unnecessary to take anything else.

The reason it's always 5-10 years away is because that's how long safety trials take. Often during these trials companies realise it's too expensive to continue because their treatment is rubbish and won't make much money (e.g. Revivogen, I think). Histogen already knows its product is good.

[KeepTheHair]

Yeah, there is a big difference between the hopes histogen gives and what other companies give. Histogen definitely already has something succesful, they already have a really good safety trial behind them and they are now only conducting further trials. I am fairly certain that their trials will be a success once again, and if it is...we will see this product on the market within the next decade.

Hopefully way sooner.

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For the record, I think wnt proteins are the magic bullet. I really believe the cure for hair loss has been discovered. Now all that remains is to see how much of a dose is needed for the desired effect and safety trials.

I just wish they'd let me sign a waiver so I could try it immediately!

I really need this stuff before 2012. I'm meant to be getting married in 2012 and I don't want to be balding on the most important day of my life, especially considering there'll be hundreds of photos to capture the day. Heck, I even deliberately feigned illness on my graduation to avoid a photograph of my hair thinning. I've managed to avoid photographs for seven years now.

[TanCas]

I have a few questions about Histogen:

1. How many injections were administered (2009 trial, on 25 subjects)?

2. Could the drug be used successfully in areas that have received hair transplantation?

3. Would the directions of new hairs need to be controlled? If so, how would this be accomplished?

4. Would newly-developed hairs risk "interfering" with existing follicles (i.e., crowding the space and altering the natural directions of prior hairs)?

5. If one injection covers even a reasonable amount of area (i.e., greater than of a few tightly-packed follicular units), how would one prevent hair from growing where it's not wanted (e.g., on the forehead, if the drug is used near the anterior scalp)?

6. Would the drug produce hair anywhere it were administered, even if the area never grew hair, previously (e.g., palms)?

Thank you.

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I had a go at answering in the other thread.

[brentipold]

I have a few questions about Histogen:

1. How many injections were administered (2009 trial, on 25 subjects)?

2. Could the drug be used successfully in areas that have received hair transplantation?

3. Would the directions of new hairs need to be controlled? If so, how would this be accomplished?

4. Would newly-developed hairs risk "interfering" with existing follicles (i.e., crowding the space and altering the natural directions of prior hairs)?

5. If one injection covers even a reasonable amount of area (i.e., greater than of a few tightly-packed follicular units), how would one prevent hair from growing where it's not wanted (e.g., on the forehead, if the drug is used near the anterior scalp)?

6. Would the drug produce hair anywhere it were administered, even if the area never grew hair, previously (e.g., palms)?

Thank you.

You, really need to start reading on here......

1. 1 injection was made in a very small area...I think only a few centimeters, which is nothing.. imagine what they could do with multiple injections and a higher concentration.. that is what phase II will curtail.
2. I do not know.
3. They grow the just like your existing hair in the right direction, again read.
4. dont know
5. Dont know.
6. Why would you want that?