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    Hair transplants on Norwood VI and Norwood VII people look like comb overs. As I have no idea how extensive my hair loss will be, it's a risk that is perhaps not worth taking. Not just yet anyway.

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    What stage are you currently in?


    Just do it geez. I dont know why you wont do it... It will give you more hair, spread out well. so even if you do lose more hair ...you will just have more hair because of the transplant. You putting it off is not a good idea. You can always get a second transplant.

    You have more donor hair than you think also. It doesn't take a thick head of hair to actually LOOK that thick. Thats why hairtransplants with 2500 follicles make such a huge visual difference.

    Just do it...

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    The brunette human head tends to have something in the region of 50,000 more hairs than blonde ones and baldness is far more pronounced early on because of the contrast. It's not a great combination to start with.

    To have a full head of hair on top, I think you need something in the region of 100,000 hairs. A full appearance is possible with half that, about 50,000 hairs. If you're going to be a Norwood VI, at best you'll probably be able to get 10,000 grafts totalling up to 30,000 hairs, about 20,000 short of the 50,000 for a full appearance.

    Have you seen the transplant results of the Norwood VI and VIIs? They look terrible.

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    I think you misunderstand completely and your very quick to be negative about things.


    First of all. Blonds have thinner hair than brunettes. That is why BLONDS actually have MORE hair than brunettes. That is why brunettes do better in hair transplants, especially if you are still under 35 with good, thick hair.

    You have it the other way around.

    Also, it only takes about 1500-3000 hair to make a really big difference, and I mean big.


    This is 2700 grafts I found on a website:





    thats a huge difference and it is common. If you really need more than that then get more than that. But what you fail to understand is it is highly succesful in making you look better. It wont look like a comb over... it will make your hair denser overall. The top of the head is a smaller spot than the sides. 2000 hairs make a big difference, especially if grown to a decent length.

    together with propecia, rogaine and the hair comb...there really is hope for people balding.


    I recommend you get a hair transplant. You should have a lot of donor hair at the age of 27, especially if you have been on medicine that reduces hairloss.




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    OK so it seems linking to images aren't allowed on this website. Go to google and just search hair transplants before and after pictures. Find some pictures that show 2000-3000 hairs transplanted and you will be amazed at the difference. DO NOT look at people that are over their 40's because they tend to have really thin hair. Also don't look at blonds because they also have much thinner hair.

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    I agree that everyone must get one with ones life. Hair transplants can be a very positive but no doctor will give you a guarantee. I went to Dr. Woods for corrective surgery and he has been the best so far. You do not sign a legal disclosure as you do here in other clinics. That legal disclosure signs all of your rights away legally. He has tried to get other doctors to follow this and he is not well liked in the medical community. But you know what I have had a huge transformation with him (still undergoing surgery) I had very very little donor hair and was forced to use beard and body hair. The beard hair has saved me. The body hair is ok for the frontal hairline but not for bulk. I have no scarring at all. I do have less of a beard and want him to take out the remaining donor (beard) so that I have even less there and more on the mid scalp. I most likely will go back this summer for my last surgery. I last went in January of this year. I really am happy I chose him- Some others do not like him. All doctors have patients that are happy and not. Do not believe that every doctor has the brochure -picture perfect transplants either. They choose the best ones of course for sales. It is a crime however that the medical community let what happened to me and others in the 1980's and 1990's. Even today there are many bad results but it is a hidden community. Many doctors will not expose each other as they take on that oath to each other. One must be careful. Spencer gives good advice. I know that DR. Woods is not on the list but for me is the only Dr. I trust. That is not to say that the list here is not good. I only know the Bosleys, MHR(Matt leavitt worked on me- terrible) NUHart & Brandy(The ones who really screwed me over) should have their licenses revoked. Dr Shelly friedman did some decent work on me but it was strip and I am against strip because no doctor can guarantee that the scar will not stretch. I have even seen tricho-closures stretch. Dr. Woods did tell me that I could have white dots on the area where the beard was extracted so I tried a small surgery and had no problems. I have had over 3500 beard hairs extracted and no white dots. The only way I can tell is if I really zoom in a picture but it only looks like I once had acne. No one in real life ever gives me any stares at all. My hair is not showroom -brochure-sales quality at least not yet. It may never be because of all of the damage I endured. I will say that friends, family and myself feel that I have been improved by 75 to 80%. I am hoping that my last surgery puts me over the top and I think from my growth so far it will. But remember baldness does steal much of your youth and that is something that I will never have again. That said I am glad I removed my wig and had the surgery with Dr. Woods. Perhaps one day I will Drive to Los Angeles (not far from my hometown) and meet spencer to show him my results in person. I always recommend seeing a transplant in person- Photos and videos are second best IMO. Good luck to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixed by 35 View Post
    There is an element of truth in that we do need to get on with our lives. People with far greater afflictions do, which would make us pathetic if we did not. However, that doesn't mean we should create another generation that has to 'make do' at the bottom of the pile.

    Nor should we have to pretend we enjoy life. Over the past few years, since losing some of my hair, I've got a good job and a lot of professional qualifications. I have a stable relationship and I'm financially secure. However, I get no pleasure or satisfaction from any of it, because it wasn't the life I wanted. The life path I wanted to follow is restricted to people with good hair. Let's just say I did two things at school and university; acting and politics.

    The fact is no matter what I do, however much I succeed, I'll get no pleasure from it because I'm only allowed to fulfil someone else's dream, not my own which is restricted to the hirsute. Why did I start taking dutasteride again a month ago, some 2 years after thinking I'd finally accepted my hair loss? Simple; I passed some more professional qualifications and got zero satisfaction from doing so. The pass rates of these exams are so low others dance in fountains when they pass; I couldn't give a damn.

    Hair loss took the edge off life. It's okay, not great, just average. It made me average and it ruined my ambitions, that's why I'll never pass the gene on.

    By all means go off and shave your head, pump iron, eat healthily. The rest of your life has been ruined, you might as well sacrifice your recreational time to your hair loss too if that's your thing. But don't try and convince yourself you look good. At best you look average; in all likelihood, you look old and ill. And if that's not enough, all the bald men I know who grow to 'accept' it are the sort of people who lacked ambition in the first place.

    LMAO...no one is saying hair loss looks good. But your attitude on this is unbelievable. To borrow a line from dumb and dumber, you are sounding like 'one pathetic loser.' Listen, no is trying to minimize the effects of hair loss or saying people who are bald look great. But we arent lying to ourselves either when we realize there is more to life than just hair, and thats not pretending life is great either, just that our lives dont revolve around hair or no hair. If you cannot realize that, which you seemingly cannot, then why not just kill yourself right now.

    The fact is most of the male population will experience hair loss at some point in time. To get on here and say meds and ht's dont work is a flat out lie. They have worked great for many. If you dont want to have kids then by all means dont, you dont seem like you would be a positive role model anyway, and I doubt you could teach anyone to god forbid overcome an obstacle in their lives. Its sad when someone like yourself places so much value on something like hair that they cannot live without it when there are millions of people doing just that. Do they want more hair if you ask them, I'm certain they would say yes, but I bet very few of them would have your terrible attitude.

    I got news for you, life doesnt always go the way you want it to. But are you going to sit around wallowing in self pity or actually try and live a life to its fullest on the small amount of time you have in this world? People are dying of hunger, war diseases, ect. everyday. People are going thru divorces, job loss, financial problems, ect. And here you are 40 yrs after the fact still not appreciating life the way you should b/c of hair. Go buy a system or get a transplant if it bothers you this much but dont start ridiculous threads and expect people to agree with an attitude like this, and dont typecast all bald people as one ones with no ambition. If you want to see someone like that, look in the mirror.

    One more thing, dont tell me the rest of my life has been ruined. It hasn't at all. Your has though, because you have gone thru all of it with a piss poor outlook who gets no satisfaction out of anything but having hair. Fortunately, that will never be me.

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    Wow- The bitterness is prevelant is some of these posts. Yes life is great- Being bald is great. I am so happy. I have had testicular cancer, chemo and now have an implant of saline. That was a piece of cake compared to being bald. I am so happy. Well if this is what you want to hear so be it but you are fooling yourself. I agree one must go on but you know what in the end baldness will always be a huge problem. The sooner one admits to it and does something about it the better. One must go on but to say it does not leave permanent scars is BS!! Most of these tough machos know nothing. Being blind is great, in a wheelchair great- Deaf great. What a bunch of total mind controlling BS. Bald is ugly, disfiguring and again - NO Child for me. Go ahead now and look at that mirror and lie to yourself and have 30 kids. When they complain tell them to get over it and many, many can't. Have you ever had chemo, a Fake testicle? I have and you know what Baldness is 1000000000000000000X Worse. So do not speak when you have no experience in life as I have. Everyone must deal with the cards they are given- Another reason I will never have a child. A truthful attitude beats a lie any day. Now get your positive attitude and go on in life as I do but I will not succomb to such B.S. Wait till the day when Baldness has a cure and how many men will come out and say how miserable they were. Then the truth will be heard. Remember there is such a thing as Samson & Delilah - I am proof losing hair is losing strength, looks and everything else. Dispute that!! But you will never ever change me or millions like myself- Go ahead and try.

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    nah, not going to try, b/c you obviously didnt read/understand my post. and am not going to try and respond to anymore of the nonsense you two post. instead, i will let u both continue to wallow in self pity and live a life that is unfulfilled.

    like i have said a million times, losing hair sucks, but you need to keep it in perspective.

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    The trouble with baldness is that whilst it is just a cosmetic problem, so are a lot of other afflictions but they get support rather than mockery. It's acceptable in today's society to have all sorts of cosmetic surgery, but men who want to treat their baldness just to look normal tend to get mocked whilst men who want their teeth straightened or their nose moulded don't.

    You can try to go to the doctor's with body dysmorphia. If you have comically ridiculous ears or saggy breasts, he refers you to a specialist. If it's hair loss, he laughs at you and prescribes a bit of valium. Mine prescribed prozac, the idiot.

    That's the problem with baldness. You can't go to a friend or a family member and tell them how you really feel because they laugh at you and tell you to get over it, unlike all other medical conditions. You can't openly say you want to do something about it, because you're meant to just shave and hate your appointed image for the rest of your life. Someone always mentions that meat headed idiot Vin Diesel, who by the way still has some sort of hair line. That's why some men find it worse to lose their hair than to get serious illnesses - certainly my ruptured gallbladder was a lot less stressful than my hair loss, because I had support when I was ill.

    I lost a lot of friends when I started to lose hair because I was not prepared to live the rest of my life being mocked for something I could not control. You might even say I have high rather than low confidence; I do not think I deserve to be called a slap head by someone who has never had to deal with a real problem in their lives. I've got far better things to do with my time. That's how hair loss ruined my life - it alienated me from my 'friends.'

    So by all means go pump some iron, shave your head so it shines in the sun then go and have a good laugh at your own expense at how ugly you are with your 'friends.' If you're happy being the low brow comic relief in your circle of friends for the rest of your life, you do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixed by 35 View Post

    So by all means go pump some iron, shave your head so it shines in the sun then go and have a good laugh at your own expense at how ugly you are with your 'friends.' If you're happy being the low brow comic relief in your circle of friends for the rest of your life, you do that.
    Again, you have no sense of reality. I still have most of my hair. I am taking proscar, planning on getting prp this summer, and will get a ht when i decide the time is right. I have pretty thick hair and above average donor density. However, if you think my friends laugh at the bald guy you are wrong. There are several balding friends in my group, some pretty bad, and no one has ever made fun of them for it, nor have they been 'comic relief' for being ugly. In fact they still get plenty of girls b/c unlike u they dont let it take over their lives and have still have a great personality. Apparently you think b/c your friends treated u poor, all others must do the same, which is not true obviously.

    You somehow think the only solution to going bald is to 'shave your head, pump iron and get a tan.' again, lmao. your attitude is so bad i just cannot stomach anymore of this. just b/c your life sucks, dont try and make it seem like all others will too, b/c im living proof you're wrong.

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