Follica at it again?!

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  • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 342

    #16
    I read a post somewhere on this site that said Follica was talking about a 2018 release but I don't know what that claim was based on.

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    • Swooping
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 801

      #17
      Originally posted by allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
      I read a post somewhere on this site that said Follica was talking about a 2018 release but I don't know what that claim was based on.
      Based on this information which was found by noisette; http://puretechhealth.com/images/inv...T08_CNB-v2.pdf (page 106). We discussed it a bit elsewhere and we think it's probably going to be disruption of the skin through their method with either minoxidil or PGF2a. That being said we'll probably get to know the details as they are going to engage in another trial later this year.

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      • allTheGoodNamesAreTaken
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 342

        #18
        Originally posted by Swooping
        Based on this information which was found by noisette; http://puretechhealth.com/images/inv...T08_CNB-v2.pdf (page 106). We discussed it a bit elsewhere and we think it's probably going to be disruption of the skin through their method with either minoxidil or PGF2a. That being said we'll probably get to know the details as they are going to engage in another trial later this year.

        OK. That's encouraging. And it means that 3 rival companies (Replicel, Histogen and now Follica) have talked about 2018 releases. Would you say that suggests they take each other's claims seriously?

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        • rdawg
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 1019

          #19
          Just read some of the article, it seems like an incredibly encouraging find.

          Not sure if I understood if they will be injecting stem cells after abrasion? Wasn't quite clear on that.

          but the idea that they are saying it will create greater than 100 new hairs per cm2 with 1/4th being terminal is groundbreaking!

          This is very similar to what desmond was talking about with follica a few years ago, how they had a product that works well but isn't the full cure.

          Follica clearly sees an opening in the market and understands a full cure is still a fair amount of time away, bringing this to the table in less than 2 years from now would be amazing!

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          • rdawg
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 1019

            #20
            late 2017 is a possibility in the USA guys!!

            some interesting points from the article:

            "Follica’s three clinical studies of patients with androgenetic alopecia demonstrated hair growth
            through target area hair count and/or hair follicle neogenesis through biopsy following TCP. Follica
            views TCP as a foundational technique which could potentially be enhanced through the addition of
            drugs. One of the three studies was a two arm study in which one arm received TCP plus placebo and
            the other arm received TCP plus a drug which was being used in an exploratory manner to see if it
            could enhance TCP. Both arms showed a statistically significant increase in hair growth
            (a combination of vellus and terminal hair), but TCP enhanced hair growth to the same degree with or
            without that particular drug, and therefore the study did not meet its primary endpoint. This resulted
            in an impairment loss for PureTech with respect to its holding in Follica. PureTech subsequently led a
            recapitalisation of Follica in 2013 pursuant to which PureTech gained control of Follica and also
            obtained future royalties on net product sales."

            "The appropriate category of product (medical device, drug or biologic) is determined by the primary mode
            of action of the product. Follica’s lead product candidate operates primarily by its TCP device. Drugs
            already in receipt of FDA approval will be used in conjunction with Follica’s TCP device without change to
            their route of delivery or indication. Therefore, Follica’s lead product candidate is anticipated to be
            regulated as a medical device.
            Assuming a successful read-out of its next clinical study (i.e. after demonstrating that Follica’s lead product
            candidate can stimulate cosmetically significant hair growth through TCP and at-home application of an
            approved drug) Follica expects to seek regulatory approval in the US in late 2017
            ."

            The key to a quick release? This will be modelled as a medical device used in conjunction with other drugs(i.e Minoxidil or possibily bimatoprost).

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            • Kokles
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 23

              #21
              Targeted cutaneous perturbation? Dermabrasion? Taking a few hundredths of millimeter off your scalp skin by any means?

              So what about just taking a brush with hard bristles and scraping the shit out of your scalp until you're bloody a bloody mess all over your scalp? Unfortunately then you will scab up and look like potato on top of your head for 2 weeks. + Minoxidil and you have thousands of new hairs? But only 1/4 terminal and the rest just lame vellus hair??

              Hm...

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              • rdawg
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 1019

                #22
                Originally posted by Kokles
                Targeted cutaneous perturbation? Dermabrasion? Taking a few hundredths of millimeter off your scalp skin by any means?

                So what about just taking a brush with hard bristles and scraping the shit out of your scalp until you're bloody a bloody mess all over your scalp? Unfortunately then you will scab up and look like potato on top of your head for 2 weeks. + Minoxidil and you have thousands of new hairs? But only 1/4 terminal and the rest just lame vellus hair??

                Hm...
                So take a vacation or wear a hat for a week, doubtful it would be that bad on the skin if it's a sophisticated process. This would not be like a dermaroller, they have been designing this device for years, it would definitely be specifically targeted to grow hair.

                +minoxidil at first, but you'd have to think they would develop better products to use it with to get half or 3 quarters of the hairs to get Terminal or more.

                There is no current product that gives you 100's of new terminal hairs like this is claiming(unless you have the very rare, massive positive reaction to fin), this is a major breakthrough if true!

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                • lacazette
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 396

                  #23
                  Finally some good infos about follica, that's great to read I wasn't expecting that short timeline

                  On puretech pipeline, it shows that follica have 3 product candidates/studies, how do you interpret it guys? What does it represent?
                  would it be more Tcp + 3 different drug (or ****tails of drug) or would it more be one for the tcp protocol, one for the drug used, etc? what do you think?

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