Sorry for the delayed reply. I just started a new job and life has been insanely busy/stressful. I'm certain part of that falls into my post this week. I really, deeply appreciate everyone's support. Normally, my lack of hair doesn't bother me so much (I'm in my mid-40's BTW), but when an attractive girl pities me because of my hair... it just kind of hurts. I know it's foolish but I don't want to be judged solely on my hair and appearance, but so much of life is just that. For some of us, we have to try so hard just to get a foot in the door.
Living with the look of accelerated hair loss can feel emasculating. I imagine women who go through breast cancer and a mastectomy can certainly relate on some level. The trouble with hair loss is it's immediately noticeable- there's no hiding. Your vulnerabilities are right there in the open. I'm a confident person, but some days it takes a lot when I'm conscious of it all.
I'll post pics of my hairline. If I looked good with a shaved head I'd definitely go with SMP but unfortunately, I don't. If I get the money, I will very likely undergo another surgery and just keep my fingers crossed on the outcome.
Hello and I am so glad to hear back from you Borntoosoon!!
Im also glad to read that you are in your mid-40s now!!
With that being said, you have better foresight available to you.
That is because at your age, your brain's neo-cortex has been fully grown since your very early 30s. (im older than you so I know)
That being said, if there is a woman that would pity you because of your hair, then SHE POSSIBLY has a mental or emotional issue ..not you!
I know that you said~ "it just kind of hurts" but you must reconsider your own emotions.
If a woman would define you and our criticize you due to your hairloss then that woman is not WORTH dealing with at all due to her own ignorance. Ignorance is not meant to be a criticism, it is a lack of knowledge or consideration.
Now, looking at your photos, (and thank you), your scalp looks somewhat like what my scalp looked like before.
Keep in mind that in 2013, I started on Finasteride along with Biotin.
Then last year in November, I was Dr. Wesley's Pilofocus 3rd phase test patient.
His phase testing is all about possible Hair Regeneration!! He also started me on Minoxidil (November 2015)
Ive been using Finasteride, Biotin and Minoxidil and the improvements are very positive but ongoing!! Also, Dr. Wesley's way of thanking me for being a phase test patient, he also did 500+ FUE grafts too!
Please update me on exactly what you are doing now to improve your hairline..OK??
Im glad that you are 'here' bro!!
I had this long post but hit 'reply to thread' rather than 'post quick reply', so I'll keep it shorter.
After my HT I tried 10% Minoxidil all over scalp regularly, twice a day for a year and a half with absolutely no noticeable difference. I'm reluctant to try Propecia from concerns of side-effects and testosterone loss. I come here from time to time to check up on HT technology and treatment progress but haven't seen any since my HT in 2012, despite all the high hopes we all share when something comes up.
While I wait it out I tried shaving my head a couple of times but really don't have the face/head for it, so SMP is out of the question. I've tried Caboki/NanoGen on and off and it helps a little but I always feel self-conscious about it, even though I lock it down with hair spray. My skin is sensitive, so it can only take a couple of days in a row of that before breaking out very badly (and painfully).
So I'm just waiting to make enough, then save enough to do more FUE's.
That sounds like an AMAZING deal from Dr. Wesley. Wish I could have been in on that, though I'm anxious about future surgery because it took so long for my scalp to appear even half-normal after my HT- like seven months. By 'half-normal', I don't mean 'full of hair', I mean it was very read, full of scabs and just terrible looking in general- like I'd had a serious injury of sorts.
Anyway, I appreciate every bit of support here (thanks John, Michael, Geez, MPB and Artista). BTW Artista, I've always appreciated your Lennon painting. I'm guessing that's your own work. Very good stuff.
On a side note, I went to Dr. Wesley's site after seeing your post. I can't say I had trouble with scarring so much as a couple of spots from the donor site swell up painfully from time to time which never did before the surgery. I'm guessing they were caused by the surgery and may never likely be corrected. Wondering if anyone else ran into that issue.
The other thing I was curious about was whether anyone tried Dr. Oscar Klein's solutions and had any luck with them. There's another thread dedicated to it but no one ever posts pics.
Great to see your response again Borntoosoon!!
I'm quite busy right now and I certainly will respond better later on,
(we're going on vacation)
But I'd like to thank you for your 'Lennon' painting complement!
Yes that is my painting!
I'm a professional artist (of course I still have to have my regular job too)
When John Lennon was murdered in 1980
I made a very good portrait painting of him one week after he died!
I was so very heartbroken!
The portrait painting that you see here I created of John Lennon one year after his passing, on July-1981.
Maybe sometime later I'll post the 1980 portrait John Lennon too!
Thank you bro!!
I've been thinking about your original post a bit and I have to say that it's pretty fcked up that she said that to you. Imagine if you went up to a girl and said "Oh, you are so fat and have all those wrinkles around your eyes. It must be hard to meet a man carrying around all that extra weight and looking so old." If you said that to her she would probably have a mental breakdown. It's easy to tear someone down. I'm also glad to hear that you are in the same age range as some of us. I'm in my late 30's and most of the guys I know have some degree of hair loss. All I know is that women who judge men by those very unrealistic standards end with a few cats and a lot of regrets. Anyway, I want to also let you know that I take Dutasteride on a daily basis and have been on that for several years now. Prior to that I was taking Propecia. Neither of these medications has affected my libido in the slightest and I've basically stopped losing hair. I can even gain hair depending on my Dutasteride dosing. The cost of this medication keeps me in the .5 to 1.5mg range as a daily regiment.
Also, I've been losing hair since I was 15, so the process for me has been a lifelong adventure. But it's totally ok! The only time it's ever affected me is when I let it affect me. So I definitely don't want anyone here to feel like the dread of hairloss stays with you forever. Especially for guys! I find it weird if you don't lose any hair!
I've been thinking about your original post a bit and I have to say that it's pretty fcked up that she said that to you. Imagine if you went up to a girl and said "Oh, you are so fat and have all those wrinkles around your eyes. It must be hard to meet a man carrying around all that extra weight and looking so old." If you said that to her she would probably have a mental breakdown. It's easy to tear someone down. I'm also glad to hear that you are in the same age range as some of us. I'm in my late 30's and most of the guys I know have some degree of hair loss. All I know is that women who judge men by those very unrealistic standards end with a few cats and a lot of regrets. Anyway, I want to also let you know that I take Dutasteride on a daily basis and have been on that for several years now. Prior to that I was taking Propecia. Neither of these medications has affected my libido in the slightest and I've basically stopped losing hair. I can even gain hair depending on my Dutasteride dosing. The cost of this medication keeps me in the .5 to 1.5mg range as a daily regiment.
Also, I've been losing hair since I was 15, so the process for me has been a lifelong adventure. But it's totally ok! The only time it's ever affected me is when I let it affect me. So I definitely don't want anyone here to feel like the dread of hairloss stays with you forever. Especially for guys! I find it weird if you don't lose any hair!
I gotta say this isn't helpful. It's not easy to tear someone down it's easy to lack perception and allow people to tear you down. Some of the most confident people in the world would be considered extremely ugly by today's standards. The fact is we emphasize looks too much when we all die we decompose the same and we will miss life being overly focused on or short comings. For Christ sake people are born without legs, people are porn worn physical deformities and they carry through life. The key is to find your niche in life chase it not vanity Or women and you will meet the right person along the way. I'm not saying we all wouldn't have looked better with a full head of hair but I don't think this women was trying to hurt you. I joke about my grey hairs and thin hair and I'm not even 30. If someone mentions it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It did when I was 19 but that was 10 years ago and I focus on my positive attributes instead. Anyways hair loss does suck I doubt about it but so many things suck more like cancer, which I had at 23 and really made me let go of hair loss bothering me. I do my best to maintain it. If a cure really came I would use it but In the mean time I do things I love to do.
Hey man. Good to see you're getting positive support and hopefully a new perspective. I'm sure every single one of us have been where you are at some point, whether it be about our hair or any other number of things that can make us insecure in this world - so you're definitely not alone. (And for what it's worth, I bet even you're "physically perfect" friend has these moments too where he feels crappy and insecure.)
May I play devil's advocate and be blunt for a moment? (And if this is totally off base, just ignore this - but I promise my intentions are good). I noticed in your original post two things that stood out to me when explaining your insecurities. One was that you have no problem talking to "attractive" women... And the other stemmed from a conversation you had with a "younger" girl. The only reason I bring this up is because I wonder if there's a part of you that is getting in your own way when it comes to finding love and happiness. This is extremely common, and something we're all capable of doing if we're not aware of it. Because here's the thing - the way you describe yourself otherwise (fit, sharp, youthful) tells me that you would be a good catch for someone. I know tons of guys who are overweight and bald and rude and THEY have significant others... Or guys that aren't that smart that have significant others.... My point is that there's someone/many people out there for every single one of us. This is a big world with lots of fish in the sea. And I may be wrong, but I wonder if a part of you is too focused on the young and pretty girls that you end up being judgmental to the girls who are "older and less attractive", just like you say the young and pretty ones are to you. I wonder if there's just a little bit of truth in that (and it's totally natural if there is - wouldn't make you a bad guy, just a normal one). This is in no way to say that you're a judgmental asshole, but it is something we all have to be aware of. What if there's a great girl out there for you that you're completely writing off because she's not attractive enough? Wouldn't you then be doing the same thing to them that you're accusing these younger, attractive girls of doing?
Who knows - you may be going after these "older, less attractive" girls and getting rejected as well - in which case, disregard everything I said. But based on the information you gave, it may be something worth looking into. And you may be the only one standing in the way of you and your next big love affair.
I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.
Hey man. Good to see you're getting positive support and hopefully a new perspective. I'm sure every single one of us have been where you are at some point, whether it be about our hair or any other number of things that can make us insecure in this world - so you're definitely not alone. (And for what it's worth, I bet even you're "physically perfect" friend has these moments too where he feels crappy and insecure.)
May I play devil's advocate and be blunt for a moment? (And if this is totally off base, just ignore this - but I promise my intentions are good). I noticed in your original post two things that stood out to me when explaining your insecurities. One was that you have no problem talking to "attractive" women... And the other stemmed from a conversation you had with a "younger" girl. The only reason I bring this up is because I wonder if there's a part of you that is getting in your own way when it comes to finding love and happiness. This is extremely common, and something we're all capable of doing if we're not aware of it. Because here's the thing - the way you describe yourself otherwise (fit, sharp, youthful) tells me that you would be a good catch for someone. I know tons of guys who are overweight and bald and rude and THEY have significant others... Or guys that aren't that smart that have significant others.... My point is that there's someone/many people out there for every single one of us. This is a big world with lots of fish in the sea. And I may be wrong, but I wonder if a part of you is too focused on the young and pretty girls that you end up being judgmental to the girls who are "older and less attractive", just like you say the young and pretty ones are to you. I wonder if there's just a little bit of truth in that (and it's totally natural if there is - wouldn't make you a bad guy, just a normal one). This is in no way to say that you're a judgmental asshole, but it is something we all have to be aware of. What if there's a great girl out there for you that you're completely writing off because she's not attractive enough? Wouldn't you then be doing the same thing to them that you're accusing these younger, attractive girls of doing?
Who knows - you may be going after these "older, less attractive" girls and getting rejected as well - in which case, disregard everything I said. But based on the information you gave, it may be something worth looking into. And you may be the only one standing in the way of you and your next big love affair.
I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.
There's nothing wrong with needing and expecting an attractive girl, looks are step one, bald guys can still get 7-10 range looking girls if they shave or at least keep it very short.
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