Dutasteride on a teen

[Vunoo]

Hello guys!

Im a 20 years old boy, and I've been taking finasteride +minox for 3 years, but it seems like the medications are no longer working as Intended (hair loss is slowly taking care of me...)

So since Finasteride never gave me side effects, and since dutasteride can stop up to 93% of dht conversion, do you guys think that its safe for me to try it out?

And yes, hair is this important to me.. So I guess I would take some of its possible consequences..
I mean, Just the simply fact of going outside without applying fibers on my hair makes me feel so unconfortable

Thank you for reading and have a wonderful day!

[JohnMPB]

Can you post pictures of when you started and your current state? Sometimes our mind plays tricks on us.

[Vunoo]

Thank you for the reply JohnMVP (;D), I don't have any decent image but I found a video I took when i was late 16s-early 17s (a bit before starting medication)...so here it goes:

This is how my hair used to like (13-14 years old):

http://imgur.com/amdXEDn

Then it sowly started loosing it's texture, and it's curlyness (16-17 years old @Video):

https://vid.me/3Vv2

And at the moment, this is my hair at his worst possible condition (after bath, bright light, short.. 20 years old):

http://imgur.com/NoQqgTI

This has started making my life like a whole suicidal story... Some of the girls I used to like rejected me cause of my hair (said it was a turn off), some of my friends make fun of it, and one of them started calling me "Smigol" when he saw my hair wet, after going to the beach... I honestly can't get out of my house without using topical fibers...

It's really so frustrating, I mean..what am I doing wrong..? I think I started my meds as soon as I could...I don't know what to do anymore.. :'(

[eighteen]

Have you seen the studies on dut? And I hear fin doesnt work well in people with early onset of mpb because our follicles are so sensitive to smaller amounts of dht.

[Hubris]

Dutasteride is a strong drug. I personally think that taking it at 20 years of age is a bit extreme and a little bit of a risk. However, you're not paranoid like some of the young guys on here - you're definitely losing your hair.

If you really feel strongly about wanting to keep your hair, then I would reluctantly suggest trying Dutasteride. No guarantee that it will work if Finasteride has already stopped being an effective treatment for you.

[michel sapin]

hey bro , i'm feeling your pain , me too ive been taking propecia for almost 18 month without results and i'm about to take dut .

i will keep you updated . And does minox give you regrowth in the beginning ?

[Vunoo]

Thank you very much for replying to this thread eighteen, Hubris and michel !


@eighteen, no I have not, mate. A dermatologist told me to use Fin when I was 17, so I guess she knows what she's saying..? I have no clue, but I really hope that it has been doing something all these years..

@Hubris, I might not be paranoid, but it is slowly taking away my life Hubris... this has been giving me problems with sleeping, as well as lack of appetite, sometime I just wanna lock myself in my room and just cry my heart out..Society is so damn cruel man ! :'(

@Michel, hey michel, if you're at the same page, then you probably know that loosing our hair at such a young age can completly destroy one of the most important(if not the most) parts of our lives...

I've been taking finasteride 1 mg + applying minox every night..Looking at the pictures, I guess you can take some sad conclusions... I just hope that at the very least it's slowly stopping hair loss from evolving.. I heard minox works best for receding hairlines, which isn't really my case..My problem is rather my overall hair density (specially crown)

I would really like to know if you guys could give me some help/tips about dutasteride, cause hair has always been one of the most important things for me, and since I have a somewhat childish face and lack of facial hair, this balding process is something that I will have to fight until my last days, with all my heart.

So please, fellas..Do you think that, since I dont have sides from taking finasteride, it would be the same for dut? Would it work or stop most of my hair loss? Cause if it does, I don't really mind some of it's consequences.. I would also like to know the dosage, and if I have to get some kind of receipt before buying that product in a random pharmacy..

Thank you SO MUCH for caring, dude! You're awesome ! I hope we can all solve this bullshit disease and live our lives to the fullest once again! =/

[mayapple]

Thank you for the reply JohnMVP (;D), I don't have any decent image but I found a video I took when i was late 16s-early 17s (a bit before starting medication)...so here it goes:

This is how my hair used to like (13-14 years old):

http://imgur.com/amdXEDn

Then it sowly started loosing it's texture, and it's curlyness (16-17 years old @Video):

https://vid.me/3Vv2

And at the moment, this is my hair at his worst possible condition (after bath, bright light, short.. 20 years old):

http://imgur.com/NoQqgTI

This has started making my life like a whole suicidal story... Some of the girls I used to like rejected me cause of my hair (said it was a turn off), some of my friends make fun of it, and one of them started calling me "Smigol" when he saw my hair wet, after going to the beach... I honestly can't get out of my house without using topical fibers...

It's really so frustrating, I mean..what am I doing wrong..? I think I started my meds as soon as I could...I don't know what to do anymore.. :'(

1) you need some new friends man. Who the hell bullies people like that at 20 years old??

2) If you have been on finasteride and your hair has progressively thinned like that, especially in the crown and mid-scalp, then are you sure it's working for you?

3) DUT is a hardcore medication, like the other posters said. If hair loss is making you suicidal, and if it was me, yes I would consider it. That's my personal opinion. If you had ZERO sides on finasteride, will you on DUT?? That's an impossible question to answer. You are blocking BOTH enzymes and your DHT is almost obliterated. With minimal DHT levels (on fin) you may not experience sides, but on VERY minimal levels (dut) you might.

4) Have you had your DHT serum levels measured? Testosterone?

5) I would consider RU before DUT, but that's just me personally. RU58841 is also not FDA approved and their is very little research on it.

-I was on fin for a year and it increased my hair loss. I am now using RU and DUT for a couple months. It has helped... I think? At Least the scalp pain is gone. good luck brother.

[Vunoo]

1) you need some new friends man. Who the hell bullies people like that at 20 years old??

2) If you have been on finasteride and your hair has progressively thinned like that, especially in the crown and mid-scalp, then are you sure it's working for you?

3) DUT is a hardcore medication, like the other posters said. If hair loss is making you suicidal, and if it was me, yes I would consider it. That's my personal opinion. If you had ZERO sides on finasteride, will you on DUT?? That's an impossible question to answer. You are blocking BOTH enzymes and your DHT is almost obliterated. With minimal DHT levels (on fin) you may not experience sides, but on VERY minimal levels (dut) you might.

4) Have you had your DHT serum levels measured? Testosterone?

5) I would consider RU before DUT, but that's just me personally. RU58841 is also not FDA approved and their is very little research on it.

-I was on fin for a year and it increased my hair loss. I am now using RU and DUT for a couple months. It has helped... I think? At Least the scalp pain is gone. good luck brother.

Thank you so much for helping out mayapple! :') And answering your questions:

1)I don't know man.. Unluckily or not, these are the friends I have..I've already told them that I don't like this type of behaviour..They're quite good fellas when alone, but it seems like when we're in group, they just find it funny to mock someone..But yeah, it sucks...

2)One of the main reasons of this thread was exactly that, I am not sure... It's either not working, or it might have stopped some of the hair loss (in case my MBP is ultra-severe).. Funny thing tho, my dad is the only man in my entire family who started balding (late 30s), but I guess I can't really blame that, since it seems like many other dudes are in the same circunstances and still have hair loss..

3 + 5) That is an interesting idea indeed, I just thought of the strongest thing in the market right now because I'm 20, and I don't wanna go suicidal anytime soon, so maybe the strongest thing out there, while I can, would end up being the most effective?

4) I have not !! And I guess I should! Another topic that I'll have to talk with my parents!

I will try to mark a consult with a doctor and see what they say about RU and DUT, but even if they say no, I might just give a try just for the sake of god...

Thank you so much for your attention mate, and I wish you the best luck possible fighting this bullshit!

[Demeter]

With balding this young that's treatment resistant to both minoxidil and finasteride, there is little chance of making it to 30 with even close to a full head of hair. Even if dutasteride works exceptionally well (which is highly unlikely given the rate you're progressing even with fin+min), its only going to buy you a few years before you're back to where you are now or worse. More realistically it will either slow loss or do nothing. It may even make it worse since you may be susceptible to hyperandrogenicity

So will you be happy with your current hair or worse for the next 3 years? Cause if you're not going to be happy like that, then you need to seriously reassess your plan for how to be happy in the next years of your finite life. fighting something that's inevitably going to happen, at significant cost, time, mental effort with possible side effects is not a strategy thats actually going to work.

I'm not going to lie and say losing your hair doesn't suck, but its primarily the process of losing hair and the feeling of powerlessness that sucks. Being bald is basically fine. Once you've accepted it you stop thinking about it. Know how little you thought about other peoples baldness before you were balding? That's how little you'll think about it once you're embraced it. You can find plenty of bald guys with great lives so being miserable over being bald is just a way to avoid improving the things in life you can change.

Killing your DHT can also effect your beard/body hair development, which you'll need to help balance out your face. Bald + stubble/beard looks way better than bald + no facial hair. The kind of women who are attracted to bald guys tend to be into the manly look so they're usually into beards and hairy chests too.

Even if you think somehow you can't be one of the millions of successful, happy bald people, there's still nothing you can do about it. So your only choice is to either feel sorry for yourself, which makes you even less attractive and encourages you to let life pass you by and blame all your problems on something you can't change, or you can accept it and focus on the things you can change.

The longer you fight it, the more resources and emotion you dump into fighting it the harder it will be to accept it.

BTW based on your last picture your hair is too thin to really pull off the "young, full head of hair look" but it looks easily dense enough to pull off a buzzcut, which will make your thinning a lot less noticeable. It will also stop messing with your internal monologue when you should be focused in the moment, you won't be worried about how your hair looks when its wet or viewed from a certain angle, you won't be fiddling with it which draws peoples attention to it. You'll also learn not to associate your value or appearance with hair but with other aspects of yourself. Buzzing your hair (I'd recommend number 1 or no-guard) can easily buy you a few more years of passable hair, which will help a lot since in your early 20s hair is still more of a big deal for some girls. By your late twenties/early 30s its far less of an issue and you'll be ready to embrace the full bald look.


Yeah its way easier to say than do, and getting over insecurity is still a struggle even when you're engaged in accepting what you have instead of fighting it, but its really the only viable option to be happy about that hand you're dealt in life. If you fight something you can't change you will always be unhappy about it.

As for people commenting on your hair, this is partly because thinning hair looks bad (Full head of hair > Buzzcut/Bald > Balding head of hair, especially on a young guy) and partly because anything that marks you as different at your age will be made fun of by other young bucks looking to assert their dominance. Those who are sensitive and get upset are demonstrating that they feel inferior, those who laugh it off show that they're confident in their value and position in the group.

By obsessing about your hair you're painting a massive target on your back for people to poke fun at if they're looking to knock you down a peg. Just look at how Donald Trumps hair is treated vs Bernie Sanders. Everyone jokes about Trumps hair even though he's "got a full head of hair". Bernie Sanders baldness is basically never mocked because he's not trying to hide it.

Sanders hair doesn't look any better than Trumps, in fact it probably looks worse, but he's not attempting to be something he's not so no one even thinks of making fun of him about it because its not a big deal. Trumps hair is only a big deal because he's made it a big deal. He's not being mocked for balding, he's mocked for being vain and insecure and pretending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Ew6K0W3RY