You guys probably get this a lot but I just need piece of mind.

[vurog]

I know what you mean man. When I look at my crown using the 2 mirror technique, it looks ok.

But today in the sun, it can either look like the 1st or 3rd picture, or depending on the camera's focus/light exposure, so the sun really shines, it can look like the 2nd picture! What do you think of the pics?

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I'm gonna try and find old pics of my crown too, but it's gonna be hard.

Anyhow, thanks for all your help man, will be shaving it off soon thanks to you.

I honestly don't know, Under the sun anyone can look like their thinning because the light directly penetrates where ur crown is same goes for flash and stuff, I see this often on sunny days.
How is ur hairline? Has it matured? You could also ask someone if ur family if they've noticed ur crown before.

[hamishb]

I honestly don't know, Under the sun anyone can look like their thinning because the light directly penetrates where ur crown is same goes for flash and stuff, I see this often on sunny days.
How is ur hairline? Has it matured? You could also ask someone if ur family if they've noticed ur crown before.

Hairline is the same since I was like 16, no changes, which leads me to believe that my crown is pretty much the same then.

I know now to take pics both in the sun and under normal lighting conditions to compare in a few months time.

Thanks for all the answers bro and sorry for butting into your thread, I'm gonna try and see some hair specialists soon.

[vurog]

Hairline is the same since I was like 16, no changes, which leads me to believe that my crown is pretty much the same then.

I know now to take pics both in the sun and under normal lighting conditions to compare in a few months time.

Thanks for all the answers bro and sorry for butting into your thread, I'm gonna try and see some hair specialists soon.

Yeah, try not to over obsess it, I know its hard but its the best thing you can do.
But sometimes MBP can start at the crown rather than the hairline however.

[hamishb]

Yeah I've read that too. It's just when I place a mirror on top even with sunlight, it seems perfectly fine.

I'm gonna try and remain level headed until I see an expert.

Thanks man

[ez456]

You have zero hair loss. You're lucky. Maybe you will lose some in many years but that's way off and most guys will.

Forget about it. Genuinely, or it can becomr an obsession.

[vurog]

Hey guys.. I know many of you have said that I have perfectly normal hair, but it's really really difficult to not obsess over this.
I don't know if I have BDD or something, but its getting to the point where I take a picture of my hair every hour or so to see how it looks.
I also noticed something across the side of my head which connects to my crown, is this normal for thin/fine hair or is it the start of diffuse pattern alopecia?

http://imgur.com/a/d6Xap

[vurog]

Bumping this thread, Can anyone please reply to my previous post?

[hamishb]

Bumping this thread, Can anyone please reply to my previous post?

Hey man, it's me again. Best advice I can give bro is to go get checked out by a hair surgeon/dermatologist/trichologist [that is a member of a recognised body] (in that order of preference), as everyone here will just be giving opinions without any medical education. I have been researching crowns now for about a month and in all honesty, your crown looks fine. Camera flash and direct sunlight will always make it look worse. Furthermore, I find that phone cameras over saturate dark things, well I think iPhones do, I can't comment on other smartphone cameras but i'm guessing they're quite similar.

For example, sit down on a chair and take your smartphone and point it to the floor (my floor is a light cream colour) and tap it so it focusses. The colour shouldn't change, Now move the direction of the camera so it's looking it at a dark pair of jeans that you're wearing and tap your jeans to focus. BAM, the shot saturates as the camera opens it's lens to let more light in. Now imagine what it does to your black/brown hair!

Hopefully the camera example makes sense!

[vurog]

Hey man, it's me again. Best advice I can give bro is to go get checked out by a hair surgeon/dermatologist/trichologist [that is a member of a recognised body] (in that order of preference), as everyone here will just be giving opinions without any medical education. I have been researching crowns now for about a month and in all honesty, your crown looks fine. Camera flash and direct sunlight will always make it look worse. Furthermore, I find that phone cameras over saturate dark things, well I think iPhones do, I can't comment on other smartphone cameras but i'm guessing they're quite similar.

For example, sit down on a chair and take your smartphone and point it to the floor (my floor is a light cream colour) and tap it so it focusses. The colour shouldn't change, Now move the direction of the camera so it's looking it at a dark pair of jeans that you're wearing and tap your jeans to focus. BAM, the shot saturates as the camera opens it's lens to let more light in. Now imagine what it does to your black/brown hair!

Hopefully the camera example makes sense!

Thanks, I'm not in my home town right now because of Uni but once I go back I'll definitely see a specialist, what bothers me the most is that I've never really seen myself before with this short hair so I don't know whats normal or what isn't for me. I've always worn my hair very long since the age of 15/16.

[pkipling]

Thanks, I'm not in my home town right now because of Uni but once I go back I'll definitely see a specialist, what bothers me the most is that I've never really seen myself before with this short hair so I don't know whats normal or what isn't for me. I've always worn my hair very long since the age of 15/16.

While you're waiting to see a specialist, I think it's imperative that you seek out a counselor or psychologist of some sort through your school to help you deal with this stress. I struggled with OCD for 20 years before I finally got it under control, so I understand how the obsessing part works. It can be a complicated process, and I do think it's something you should talk to a professional about, as they'll be able to evaluate you personally and give you a specific regimen that would really work for you.

For example, here's something you could try: Every time you have the urge to take a picture of your hair and analyze it, do something else. Anything. Read a book. Turn on a song. Write something. Anything at all to distract you (granted it's something healthy and not destructive). Think of this obsession with your hair as a monster that wants to take over your life, and every time you give in to the monster and analyze your hair, you feed it and it grows stronger. The more you obsess, the stronger the obsession grow. The more comfortable you're able to get with the uncomfortable feeling that you may be losing your hair, the weaker that monster becomes and the less power it has.

I think this could be a good starting point for you. It seems you have two separate issues you need to address with a professional, one being your hair. However, regardless of that situation, you need to learn better coping mechanisms for dealing with stress of this nature, and that's something you need a psychologist for. I suggest you seek that out as soon as possible so you can start having less stress in your days.

I hope that's of some help to you. Keep that head up!

I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.

[vurog]

While you're waiting to see a specialist, I think it's imperative that you seek out a counselor or psychologist of some sort through your school to help you deal with this stress. I struggled with OCD for 20 years before I finally got it under control, so I understand how the obsessing part works. It can be a complicated process, and I do think it's something you should talk to a professional about, as they'll be able to evaluate you personally and give you a specific regimen that would really work for you.

For example, here's something you could try: Every time you have the urge to take a picture of your hair and analyze it, do something else. Anything. Read a book. Turn on a song. Write something. Anything at all to distract you (granted it's something healthy and not destructive). Think of this obsession with your hair as a monster that wants to take over your life, and every time you give in to the monster and analyze your hair, you feed it and it grows stronger. The more you obsess, the stronger the obsession grow. The more comfortable you're able to get with the uncomfortable feeling that you may be losing your hair, the weaker that monster becomes and the less power it has.

I think this could be a good starting point for you. It seems you have two separate issues you need to address with a professional, one being your hair. However, regardless of that situation, you need to learn better coping mechanisms for dealing with stress of this nature, and that's something you need a psychologist for. I suggest you seek that out as soon as possible so you can start having less stress in your days.

I hope that's of some help to you. Keep that head up!

I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.

Hey man, I appreciate the advice and will take it into consideration.

Its definitely a very hard time for me right now, I don't know many people at Uni and i've been pretty homesick lately.

Whenever you or anyone reading this get the time I'd like to get some input on what I'm about to type

Back in September I moved to a completely new country for university, I'd never been far from home before this.
This was an incredibly stressful time for me, I couldn't find a suitable place to live and managed to dish out quite abit of money on a hotel room for 2 weeks while I searched
for an apartment dealing with all that and starting uni etc. was definitely a huge change in my life, 4 months right after that I had to get my wisdom teeth extracted and was
in quite abit of pain. The stress of that + having to deal with finals at the same time wasn't great.
Shortly after this (Around X-mas) I noticed my hairloss, I would have never thought that some day I'd go bald lol.
Can this be TE? Or am I just lying to myself/convincing myself that I don't have MBP.

Secondly, After I shaved my head I noticed these red spots all over my scalp
http://imgur.com/a/OxFQc, Couldn't go see a GP cause It was Christmas time and all the clinics were closed by the time they reopened these spots were gone.
I've always had dandruff for as long as I can remember aswell, does that look like it could be causing my hairloss? I've noticed these redspots reappearing, But I don't have
any major dandruff or itching, not the flaky kind of dandruff i used to atleast.

First thing I do when I head back to my hometown is go to a dermatologist and get this figured out, probably multiple derm's just to get another opinion.

[pkipling]

Hey man, I appreciate the advice and will take it into consideration.

Its definitely a very hard time for me right now, I don't know many people at Uni and i've been pretty homesick lately.

Whenever you or anyone reading this get the time I'd like to get some input on what I'm about to type

Back in September I moved to a completely new country for university, I'd never been far from home before this.
This was an incredibly stressful time for me, I couldn't find a suitable place to live and managed to dish out quite abit of money on a hotel room for 2 weeks while I searched
for an apartment dealing with all that and starting uni etc. was definitely a huge change in my life, 4 months right after that I had to get my wisdom teeth extracted and was
in quite abit of pain. The stress of that + having to deal with finals at the same time wasn't great.
Shortly after this (Around X-mas) I noticed my hairloss, I would have never thought that some day I'd go bald lol.
Can this be TE? Or am I just lying to myself/convincing myself that I don't have MBP.

Secondly, After I shaved my head I noticed these red spots all over my scalp
http://imgur.com/a/OxFQc, Couldn't go see a GP cause It was Christmas time and all the clinics were closed by the time they reopened these spots were gone.
I've always had dandruff for as long as I can remember aswell, does that look like it could be causing my hairloss? I've noticed these redspots reappearing, But I don't have
any major dandruff or itching, not the flaky kind of dandruff i used to atleast.

First thing I do when I head back to my hometown is go to a dermatologist and get this figured out, probably multiple derm's just to get another opinion.

Without being examined by a professional, it's impossible to know what exactly caused your hair loss. However, I will say that given the amount of stress you've been under in a very short amount of time, there is a possibility that something is going on aside from MPB. Stress can cause hair loss, so we can't completely write that off as a possibility. From what you've described, you've been dealing with a lot and haven't had the most effective tools at your disposal to manage it all.

I've had dandruff/flaky scalp on and off my entire life. One thing I've noticed is that the shorter I keep my hair, the less issues I have with my scalp, so I don't find it surprising that the redness went away once you buzzed your hair. I don't know if your situation is the same, but the longer my hair gets, the more the oils/products get stuck on the scalp and it will break out. Also, when I do have an outbreak on my scalp, my hair fall does increase quite considerably.

All of these things are important to note when trying to determine what is causing your hair loss. However, don't count on this to mean that you're definitely not experiencing MPB on some level. That could still very well be the case. I don't want to alarm you, but I also don't want to fill you with false hope. There's really nothing you can do definitively until you meet with a specialist to talk this through.

So keep a positive attitude, keep your stress levels down, and understand that no matter what you're dealing with and going through, you WILL survive and come out victorious (no matter what that outcome is). When we're stuck in the middle of a stressful situation, it's easy to believe that there's no way out and that we're going to be stuck there forever. However, one day you'll be on the other side of the situation smiling at the recognition that you made it to the other side.

I am a patient advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi in Los Angeles, CA. My views/opinions are my own and don't necessarily reflect the opinions of Dr. Mohebi and his staff.

[vurog]

Hey guys, haven't been active much as I kinda got over the whole "I'm loosing my hair thing" but here I am once again and just want to show how my hair looks 8 months since I first noticed hair loss and shaved my head.

I went to see a Trichologist however didn't charge me a penny and said he couldn't do a trichotest on me but by the looks of it my hair looks fine, he didn't suspect me to be loosing hair at all, nor did he thing my hairline was receeding.

I regret not looking at what my hair really looks like back when I was younger, I always had a high hairline and it was never straight as far as I can remember.

Dad had a "Mature hairline" ever since I knew him and only started showing visable hairloss at around 57, both grandparents are bald few cousins from my Moms side are bald and same goes for her brother.

I went back to visit parents during the summer holidays and they all told me I look fine, nothing to worry about and that they don't really see anything different in the way my hair is compared to when I suspected loosing hair.

I'll post some before and after pictures here.

Long hair: http://imgur.com/a/Yy6qN
Long hair hairline: http://imgur.com/a/tZd9J
Buzzed hairline: http://imgur.com/a/MGb5w
Everything now, Most of these were taken within the past 1 month: http://imgur.com/a/mzTM0

My hair has a tendency to do whatever it wants, Sometimes its curly, sometimes straight usually gets curly when its pretty humid.
Note that my hair usually has a tendency to part where that middle line is, could that just be a natural parting? I also have thin hair.

I just want an outsiders opinion on what my situation currently is like, I don't have the money to see a specialist whatsoever with Uni starting again so soon but I also don't want to keep thinking about me loosing hair just as the semester starts.

[birdsnest]

Honestly bro I think you're fine.

Everyone has weird part lines on their head. I've noticed tons since I fell down the rabbit hole too. Just take a look at girls hair now. They even show scalp.

Your hairline also looks good. Just matured, or you've had it all your life I dunno.